Off Topic..anything goes.

[Texas_Camper]

How do you feel about a Hillary/Obama ticket. I think this is just what this country needs...
Or would Obama/Hillary be the better combo...

[jimair1548]

how about a Macain/Obama ticket. The Hidabeast as no business being back in the White House. The Clintons(she as much as Wild Willie) got away with far too much....bordering on criminal....one man's opinion(actually far more than one man's opinion)

[Texas_Camper]

NO... Husein (sp?) Obama should stick with the Democrats..Although he has a Muslim upbringing and won't respect our flag, I think since he's for change we need him...Since Hillary and Bill have prior experience, we need them. Very shortly after Bill was sworn in, there appeared a huge, well written but flawed attempt to force socilaized medicine on all of us. She wants it again..so now may be the time for that.
When Bill was elected, he said that we got him and her, two for the price of one. All this time she has stood by him, so again, we'll get two for one....
With a Hillary/Husein ticket, we'll get change with experience. We'll get Mr. Gore back in there if he wishes. All he has to do is ask. Then some of the other old staffers will be put back to work. We'll get all new people in the white house travel office again. Sadly, some of the previous interns are too old now to be interns, but perhaps him and her can find someplace for them to ply their skills.....

Not that I would support either of them, I am certain that based on the campaigns they are running that neither of them would want the other as a running mate.

[Texas_Camper]

Yes, but with Hillary/Obama or Obama/Hillary then we've got Bill, Hillary and Obama all giving us all their combined wisdom and leadership..
Hillary told the workers at the GM plant that under the current administration, Mr. Bush had allowed big corporations (GM included) to make large profits and when she became president, she'd stop all that. She'd tax and tax the big corporations till they could no longer make a profit.. I'm for that...That'd serve them right, making big profits on the backs of their customers...
She's gonna tax all the rich and give big tax breaks to us poor...we need that.

Just my opinion, but I don't think politics belong in this forum... it could get pretty ugly!

[Texas_Camper]

I agree Brig...

I don't think geo-coaching is appropriate either, but there seems to be a strong desire among some posters to divert TM topics...

Their reason for claiming its legitamacy was that it was in the Off-Topic section and that made it OK.

This has been a great forum for people of all political persuasions and religious beliefs for a long time, and we have all gotten along well. I can think of no faster way of wrecking it than to turn it into a political forum.

There are better places to vent political frustrations.

This is supposed to be about camping, remember?

[Texas_Camper]

About camping?
No, not really..
It is supposed to be about TrailManors.
Not about politics, nor John Deere tractors, nor campground reviews, used cars, horses nor geo-coaching either.
Up till now, I've seen no policital fustrations posted.
I would be very happy to get away from the current off-topic subjects, but not everyone on the forum feels this way.
I will be happy to withdraw my posts and refrain from straying off-topic if everyone else will...

Originally Posted by Texas_Camper

About camping?
No, not really..
It is supposed to be about TrailManors.
Not about politics, nor John Deere tractors, nor campground reviews, used cars, horses nor geo-coaching either.
Up till now, I've seen no policital fustrations posted.
I would be very happy to get away from the current off-topic subjects, but not everyone on the forum feels this way.
I will be happy to withdraw my posts and refrain from straying off-topic if everyone else will...

I agree somewhat.

John Deere tractors have no connection to a TM. A campground review doesn't either, but it certainly is ok to ask about a particular park or to post a trip report including a particular park.

Used cars seems to be unconnected, but good locations to go camping that have places to ride horses or fly radio controlled airplanes seems to be connected.

Geo caching, to me, falls into the category of things to do when you go camping. I have no interest in it, but that is the number one activity for my brother when he goes camping. I don't think it is because he has a Montana and I have a TM.

Politics would be fine with me, for example, if someone attended the national convention and stayed in their TM in the parking lot. Now that would be a story.

There are a lot of topics only loosely related to the TM: where to stay in city xxx, route planning, activities for children and families at various destinations. Pets.

I read every post that shows up under "new posts" except TM sales. I read TMO several times a day "psst don't tell my boss". I have been an avid reader and regular poster since February 2005. The only negative post I have ever seen is the political posts trying to make a straying off topic point.

To a casual observer it might make sense to discuss geo-caching on some other forum. However that has some risks. I also read RV.NET, which is generic RVing forums. The folks over there are not nearly as polite as over hear. If I had a child that wanted to discuss geo caching with other people that go camping, I would prefer that they did that on the TMO forums instead of RV.net.

But, I don't own TMO, I am not a moderator, I don't make the rules, I just pay my money, learn a few things and try to help when I can.

Though I have no interest in geo caching, it is a lot more interesting to me than birding. Now there is something that is off topic.