TrailManor Owner's Forum  

Go Back   TrailManor Owner's Forum > TrailManor Technical Discussions > Electrical
Register FAQ Members List Calendar

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 01-25-2017, 01:06 AM   #1
Martin kim
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Posts: 13
Default where should camera wire go through?

Hello all,
I am trying to install rear view camera beside running light or above running light.
Not like previous trailer, TM is a bit difficult for camera wire to run through to the end of it because TM is transformative.
So question is that where camera wire should go through to the top of TM.
I have wiring schematic drawing from the manual even if I got the concept where the wire harness goes through, I don’t know exactly where the camera wire should go through all the way to the rear.

Thank you in advance.
Martin
Martin kim is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-25-2017, 05:24 AM   #2
stormpeakco
Senior Member
 
stormpeakco's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Colorful Colorado
Posts: 169
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Martin kim View Post
Hello all,
I am trying to install rear view camera beside running light or above running light.
Not like previous trailer, TM is a bit difficult for camera wire to run through to the end of it because TM is transformative.
So question is that where camera wire should go through to the top of TM.
I have wiring schematic drawing from the manual even if I got the concept where the wire harness goes through, I don’t know exactly where the camera wire should go through all the way to the rear.

Thank you in advance.
Martin
_________________________________________________
Though I don't we don't travel much with TM much after dusk, I didn't want to experience the headlight glare of passing vehicles with the IR function.
I ended up mounting the camera (full time, wireless-except for the 12V power) on the top and to the back edge of AC housing.
The 12V power to the TM tongue batteries is with a ~20' long battery tender cable and pigtail (this cable only is ONLY attached w/ zip ties to the front half of the TM-obviating the need for additional slack or concern with articulation of the TM opening mechanism) and runs along with all of the other OEM external wiring.
A simpler solution may be to the TM tail lights (unless we're driving near dusk or more worrisome road/weather conditions, we don't always travel during the day with the vehicle lights on. The left sided xenon headlights are ~$300 spendy to have installed since it requires removing the left fender-yankee ingenuity). Good luck.
stormpeakco is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-25-2017, 10:45 AM   #3
CAG1976
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2015
Posts: 37
Default

I think the only option is to run it along the frame underneath and then come up along those torsion bar lift arms and come up to the top of the back shell. That seems to be where Trailmanor ran some power wires on the street side of my TM. They just zip tied them to the lift arms with proper slack. Once you go up the arm you will probably have to lay some kind of "wire channel" along the shells roof edge to hide the wire coming back.

I have been thinking about doing this too. I am thinking it will be better just run under the frame all the way back and mount the camera low somewhere near the bumper or receiver hitch that is one the back of my TM. I recently installed a camera on my tow vehicle and mounted it low near my trailer hitch. The view is still great even from a low point of view because of the wide view lens they use.
__________________
2007 Trailmanor 3124 kb
CAG1976 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-25-2017, 12:36 PM   #4
Bill
Site Team
 
Bill's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: The mountains of Scottsdale, AZ, and the beaches of Maine
Posts: 10,121
Default

Martin -

Are you trying to find a route for the camera's power wire (12VDC), or for a video cable that runs all the way from the camera to the tow vehicle?

Bill
__________________
2020 2720QS (aka 2720SL)
2014 Ford F-150 4WD 5.0L
Bill's Tech Stuff album
Bill is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-25-2017, 10:05 PM   #5
Gwenne & Len
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Maple City, Mi
Posts: 166
Default Wiring rear camera

Two questions relative to mounting and powering a wireless rear view camera: 1) Has anyone mounted their rear view camera inside the rear window?
2) If that could work, where is the nearest access to running light wiring on the rear shell's interior?
__________________
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Gwenne & Len
2009 3124 KS
2012 Highlander
Leelanau County, Michigan
Gwenne & Len is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-26-2017, 04:44 AM   #6
Martin kim
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Posts: 13
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill View Post
Martin -

Are you trying to find a route for the camera's power wire (12VDC), or for a video cable that runs all the way from the camera to the tow vehicle?

Bill
Hi bill, I am trying to find a route for the video cable which would be able to go through all the way from front jack to the end of the top shell. Thanks you and I would appreciate any opinion.
Martin kim is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-26-2017, 09:50 AM   #7
Bill
Site Team
 
Bill's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: The mountains of Scottsdale, AZ, and the beaches of Maine
Posts: 10,121
Default

Martin -

I know this isn't a very attractive answer, but I'm not sure you can any better than to follow the route that the TM designers used. Run the cable from the hitch area, under the trailer, to the refrigerator area. Then follow the white rectangular lift arm up to the rear shell, bundling the cable with the others that are there, and leaving slack at the hinge bend points. From there, I think you will have to fasten the cable to the outside of the shell, probably using white rectangular self-adhesive conduit. The TM builders routed the wire inside the wall and roof, but they did it by laying the wires into a crude channel that was hacked into the foam before the wall was closed up. I don't think you would be able to follow this channel, although it might be interesting to try.

You are facing the problem that led to the development of wireless cameras. Good luck.

Bill
__________________
2020 2720QS (aka 2720SL)
2014 Ford F-150 4WD 5.0L
Bill's Tech Stuff album
Bill is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-26-2017, 08:10 PM   #8
nwhouston
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 132
Default Rear camera wiring

I have a Garmin GPS that takes a wireless rearview camera. To get good wireless communication I put the little transmitter on the pole of the electric jack at the front of the trailer, and ran wire to the back where the camera is located. Mostly under the trailer till I got to the back torsion bar vertical support (driver side). Then up that support, provided some slack for the motion of the support as it travels 90 degrees (same as the TM folks do), then into the rear cabin along the inside wall next to the bed. Finally back out at the top above the three red running lights.

Elegant? No. Functional? Close. Good picture, and the wiring at the torsion arm seems to be managing the movement ok. I used the round black plastic flex conduit sold at the box stores to protect the wire. I did put a fuse at the front end so I did not always have the camera powered when the trailer is in storage.

Hope you have success. Larry
__________________
2007 3124KS (2nd owner)
+electric hitch
+Blue Ox WDH - 1000 lb bars
2011 Silverado 1500 5.3L 6 speed auto
+P3 brake controller
nwhouston is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-26-2017, 08:26 PM   #9
Bill
Site Team
 
Bill's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: The mountains of Scottsdale, AZ, and the beaches of Maine
Posts: 10,121
Default

So, an inside run through the rear shell, rather than outside, and then back out again to the camera. I hadn't thought of that. Good idea!

Bill
__________________
2020 2720QS (aka 2720SL)
2014 Ford F-150 4WD 5.0L
Bill's Tech Stuff album
Bill is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-28-2017, 09:10 PM   #10
Gwenne & Len
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Maple City, Mi
Posts: 166
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gwenne & Len View Post
Two questions relative to mounting and powering a wireless rear view camera: 1) Has anyone mounted their rear view camera inside the rear window?
2) If that could work, where is the nearest access to running light wiring on the rear shell's interior?
From scans of prior posts I remember the warning not to hook the rear camera to the battery as the uninterrupted draw would run the battery down. So there seem to be two approaches to hooking to a switchable feed inside the TM: 1) catch a feed to the running lights that can be switched on when driving - off when parked; or 2) catch the car's feed to the power controller via the 7 pin harness.

For option 1) does anyone know where the running light wire is routed? Under the center seam cover? Behind the interior cove corner trim of the rear shell? Or would it be best to just pick up a feed from a running light or the license plate light and bore a hole through the shell to the interior?

2) How would a tap to the power supplied in from the 7 pin harness be accomplished if that option makes sense?
__________________
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Gwenne & Len
2009 3124 KS
2012 Highlander
Leelanau County, Michigan
Gwenne & Len is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Charging batteries AND running the DC fridge on the road: a DC-input battery charger ShrimpBurrito Electrical 90 08-12-2019 07:36 AM
Adding a radio in a 2005 2619 - speaker wire issue? appleton Electrical 7 06-23-2013 08:42 PM
need some idea about wire routing in roof. how to manorlife Electrical 9 01-19-2012 09:14 AM
Looking for advice on diagnosing an electrical problem mgoblue911 Electrical 15 06-11-2008 02:03 PM
Backup Camera Installation Larry_Loo Towing and Hitching 16 11-15-2007 03:42 PM


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 05:22 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Copyright 2022 Trailmanor Owners Page.