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This may have come up before.

Where is a good place to post pictures, so that anyone can see them without the need for an account with a userid and password?

Facebook is out for sure. Not sure about Yahoo or Picasa or anywhere else.

I have family that would like to see pictures of some of our camping trips, but are not very computer literate.

I could go try a bunch of them, but being lazy I thought I would tap into the data bank of TMO first.

If I can't find such a place perhaps I will just fire up my web server at home again. But dealing with a dynamic IP address is just another problem to solve.
 
I use Phanfare.com. You will not find a service that provides a more polished presentation of your pictures, and I have looked.

Their key advantages:
  • Upload your photos, and it automatically produces beautiful slideshows that pan and zoom. You can use their music, or upload your own.
  • They retain you high-res files, and you can download them at will. That means the service doubles as a backup.
  • They also will host video (including HD), and videos are included in the slideshows.
  • They have an easy web interface, but also have both PC and Mac application interfaces that are a breeze to use, even for computer-newbies.
  • You can customize the look of your albums, from layout to colors
  • Visitor reports - you can tell how many visits your albums are getting.
  • Viewing and management apps for the iPhone and iPod Touch
  • Unlimted storage.
  • Zero advertisements anywhere
  • They have speedy email support; they also used to have phone support.....not sure if they still do.

The downside is that they are not free. But it's not expensive. $99/year gets you everything above. They just came out with a cheaper plan a few months ago -- $29/year gets you everything above EXCEPT the retention of high-res files.

This sample album is on their website:
http://picturesque.phanfare.com/3942466

The layout is clean, classy, and easy to navigate. Check out the slideshows.....I can't tell you how many compliments we've gotten on ours.

Dave
 
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My advice is to be real careful of using one of these sites as a backup. Be sure you have another copy of your valuable pics, etc, stashed somewhere else. Some years ago, I discovered to my horror and embarassment that one of these on-line storage sites had died in the night, and everything I stashed there was permanently gone.

The fact that you pay a bit for Phanfare is probably some assurance that they will be around for a while. The free ones run on a different business model.

Bill
 
As a systems administrator (SYSPROG) for mainframe systems since 1974, I understand backups pretty well.

I also know that keeping two copies of pictures on two different hard drives is not adequate.

I know this because I was keeping two copies. Then I found a duplicate file finder application and it found numerous mismatches. I then used d'peg to do a side by side comparison and sure enough, they really were a mismatch. Sometimes it was obvious, where the bottom have lf the picture was either a weir color or right shifted a bit.

This is commonly called bit-rot.

It almost never happens on mainframe systems because they have a lo of CRC (error detection and correction stuff), but it takes up space and consumers don't like spending extra money for reliability. They only want capacity.

I wonder if 3 copies on 3 different hard drives would be adequate. Maybe I switch to RAID and enable striping.

Thanks for pointing out the backup issue. I understand it well, but some other readers may not be familiar with the issue.

After crashing a mainframe operating system, with inadequate backups around 1976, I learned that there is no such thing as too many backups.
 
I share Bill's concern, and so I have a third backup on an automated external network drive. But I am a photography buff, and even earn a few bucks doing it.

Phanfare backs up content on Amazon's S3 service, so there's alot of security there. And their primary data center also has generator back-up power. But of course, that doesn't help if Phanfare went out of business before they gave customers a chance to retrieve lost images. But they have been around for 7 years already, so I don't think they're going to disappear overnight.

Dave
 
I wonder if 3 copies on 3 different hard drives would be adequate. Maybe I switch to RAID and enable striping.

You could have 100 copies on 100 different hard drives, but if your house burns down, is flooded, or collapses in an earthquake, you likely won't be able to use any of them. Same thing if they get stolen -- to avoid the later calamity, you can install a network drive in an attic or basement.

I use a Synology network drive - they make models that can accommodate lots of drives. My brother has the same model, and we have configured them to automatically talk with each other. Each unit holds two 1 TB drives. One of those drives is a local backup. The other drive hosts an off-site backup my brother, and his does the same for me - a few times a week they talk to each other to backup the latest files. That gives each of us 1 local backup and 1 remote backup. All automatic, and no subscription fees. :D

This isn't hard to setup, but it isn't for a novice, either.

Dave
 
Leaving out the question of backup :) just for sharing, I have used Shutterfly for years and like it quite a bit. Once uploaded, you can invite people to see your pics by email, or get a link to post. You can also order prints and have them mailed to you, or purchase a host of items with the pics on them - books, greeting cards, mugs, T-shirts, etc.
 
I like the free www.photobucket.com so far. They have added a slideshow feature.

"Free accounts include:
•Unlimited* storage for photos.
•Up to 500 videos permitted with up to 10 minutes in length per video.
•Maximum display size of photos is 2048x1536 pixels each.
•Maximum file size permitted is 5MB per photo and 300MB per video.
"
The address to your folder or single file is a little long to tell someone on the telephone, but in an email this should be good.
Sample: http://s849.photobucket.com/albums/ab51/LiveTicker/Trailmanor entry handle/


Keep copies of your photos because inactive accounts get shutdown after 6? months. (I'm still looking for the current rules on this point).



Also check www.flickr.com - I haven't tried this one yet.
"When you have a free Flickr account, you can upload 2 videos and 300MB worth of photos each calendar month.
While the 300MB bandwidth limit for photos is firm, we do allow a little leeway..."

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photo back ups

We do back ups a little different, Desktop, laptop, net book, and flash drives.
If the house goes that takes out the desktop and one set of flash drives but not the net book, laptop and second and third set of flash drives.
 
I have owned a PC since 1980 - remember the Commodore Vic-20? For most of that time, I have owned multiples - the count is now 5. In all that time, I have never had a hard drive crash, so I've gotten a little sloppy about backups.

Two weeks ago, it finally happened. In the end, I had the local pro put in a new hard drive, and do a data recovery on the crashed unit - they call it a "scrape", and it is expensive. A "scrape" doesn't even try for the applications - it is assumed that you can find a copy and reload them (anyone want to help me with an HP printer driver????). Instead, they try for the data files - documents, photos, etc. In my case, he got most, but not all. My last backup, a couple months ago, had the photos, but the big loss was my email, which is, in effect, a history file for a lot of issues and events.

The point of this sad story is not that backups are important - everyone knows that. But he told me two things. First, RAID is cheap these days. For less than the cost of the scrape, he would install a pair of identical disks - big disks - and a RAID controller. Voila, instant and complete backup, bit-for-bit. It won't help if your house burns down, but it is wonderful protection against a hard drive crash. For a bit over $100, you can't go wrong.

If I didn't want to go RAID for some reason (and there are some), he suggested I buy one of the Western Digital Elements Portable SE hard drives. They have capacities from 500 GB to 1 TB, for well under $100. They are small enough to fit in a shirt pocket, they are plug-and-play with a simple USB cable, and you use them just like any other hard drive - no special interface software is needed. In addition, they are powered by the USB cable, and so have no need for a docking station or wall wart. If you use one of these, backup is still a manual operation, but it is simple drag-and-drop at the file or folder level. I own one, and I love it.

I have to admit, I have been living in the past. I thought that BIG drives and ADVANCED technologies like RAID were still terribly expensive. Not so. I'm on board now.

Bill
 
A family member had a hard drive crash at work, and for whatever reason, a good chunk of the data had not been backed up. So they took it to some place to do a recovery, just like what Bill did, and they searched just for data as well. Total cost was ~$1,500, and they didn't recover everything. The larger the file, the harder it is to recover. If you use Outlook for email, the mail file is almost always large, an thus you usually lose some of it.

There are lots of different ways to do backups, but just like any insurance, it does cost a little bit (but not much), and you need to make the effort to set it up. But one thing I think it CRITICAL to backups is that they be automatic. If they are manual, it just won't happen consistently, or even regularly, guaranteed. And since it doesn't take much more money or effort to make it automatic, it always mystifies me as to why someone would choose to do manual.

Dave
 
I started with a Commodore 64 (ahh, the good old days) and have been in IT management for the last 21 years.

At work we always had RAID on our Unix and Windows based servers and tape backups. I would not trust RAID alone, as I've seen numerous RAID Controllers fail that have caused the entire array to become corrupt (and these are high-end RAID controllers).

For personsal data, I started with CD's, then when that became unmanageable switched to DVD's and then when that became unmanageable switched to a Xiemta network disk that was mirrored.

The problem with the Xiemta or a USB drive is convenience. If the data is important, it should always be off-site. What if there is a fire and you are not home at the time?

With it needing to be off-site, how often are you going to go get it, bring it home and refresh your backup and take it off-site again?


A few years ago I switched to online backup. There are a lot of offerings with mozy and carbonite being the dominate players.

I choose mozy.com and since then they were acquired by EMC (a MAJOR player in the storage market) - so I don't think they are going anywhere and being a public company they have SaS70 and ISO Certifications on their data center operations.

You choose what folders you want to backup up and it automatically does it in the background when your computer is idle. The data is encrypted with up to 256 bit blowfish encryption (most financial sites only use 128 bit encrpyption).

I have over 100Gb of photos, documents and music backed up.

Pricing is reasonable ($5.99/month for 50Gb, $9.99 for 125Gb...with up to 4 months free depending on contract duration) and it's convenient - I don't have to do anything to keep it current.

It also support versioning....If I had a 500 page book and opened it to write the ending credits and in the process deleted pages 200-250 and saved it that way, mozy keeps several prior versions (under windows, right click the file, select mozy restore and then select which version I want to restore).

If you're just copying files to USB drive or Flash drive without keeping multiple versions, the file may become corrupt, infected with a virus or you may do something to the file (like delete 50 pages) without knowing it...without versioning, you've lost data.
 
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I've heard good things about Carbonite and Mozy......

I started with a Sinclair ZX-81. It had a membrane keyboard, a whopping 16 KB memory pack the size of a brick (the on-board memory was 1 K:cool:, and a thermal printer with paper about 5 inches wide. To load programs, you used a cassette player, and you had to know exactly where on the tape the program started (the tape counter came in handy), and you had to make sure the volume was set correctly.

Dave
 
Dave -

$1500 for a scrape? Wow, I paid about a tenth of that, and thought I was getting hosed. Perhaps a more expensive scrape would hae recovered more.

You are right about big files being harder to recover. Just like Outlook, email files in Thunderbird tend to get huge - hence my loss of email.

As for automatic backup? The only reason I can think of why it would not be good is pilot error. If I mistakenly delete a file, a RAID system will dutifully duplicate that deletion, and do it instantly. And there is no way to get it back. I know, nobody ever deletes a file without meaning to - certainly I never have!!! With a manual backup, or scheduled automatic backup, you get a second chance.

And unlike RAID, a portable drive gives you the option of offsite storage. Maybe your neighbor will let you keep it in his garage. Or maybe just a small fireproof safe ... All I know is I've gotta do something. I don't want to go through this again.

Bill
 
I've heard good things about Carbonite and Mozy......

I started with a Sinclair ZX-81. It had a membrane keyboard, a whopping 16 KB memory pack the size of a brick (the on-board memory was 1 K:cool:, and a thermal printer with paper about 5 inches wide. To load programs, you used a cassette player, and you had to know exactly where on the tape the program started (the tape counter came in handy), and you had to make sure the volume was set correctly.

Dave

LOL - I had NO storage when I bought my C64. I'd spend hours writing/entering program code, run the program a few times and happily lose it when I turned off the computer.

I eventually got the cassette drive (execute load command, wait 3 minutes for the loader screen to come up that would inform me it would be approximately 20 more minutes before the rest of the program loaded) and then the floppy drive. It was great...64k of memory and a 170k floppy drive :D
 
I once accidentally did a quick format of my hard drive. That wiped out the boundary definitions of all of my partitions (I like multiple partitions). It set the drive to be a single partition, consuming the entire drive and said it was empty, but I know it did not do a format.

I spent hours online looking for a tool to reset the partition table. Then I spent 10 minutes fixing it.

A scraper could have recovered the data. I was able to put it back to bootable with all applications runable.
 
$1500 for a scrape? Wow, I paid about a tenth of that, and thought I was getting hosed. Perhaps a more expensive scrape would hae recovered more.

Yep, I couldn't believe it myself. The drive wasn't even that big....maybe 300 GB. It was a government computer, so perhaps the "scrape" was much more intensive or the damage was more significant than what you had. This was also a few years ago.

As for automatic backup? The only reason I can think of why it would not be good is pilot error. If I mistakenly delete a file, a RAID system will dutifully duplicate that deletion, and do it instantly. And there is no way to get it back. I know, nobody ever deletes a file without meaning to - certainly I never have!!! With a manual backup, or scheduled automatic backup, you get a second chance.

That's a definite disadvantage against a RAID setup. RAIDs ONLY prevent against disk failure, and nothing else. But they protect your entire system disk as a volume, including all your applications and settings, so downtime can literally be 10 minutes if you have a failure. But if a virus infects all your Word docs, they are infected on both disks. If you delete a file, it's gone. You can get around both problems on non-RAID drive backup setups by keeping multiple versions or doing incremental backups - these sorts of backups can be done with software utilities that operate in the background, and function much like Carbonite and Mozy's client applications.

With this sort of backup, the breadth of your "safety net" is limited only by the size of the backup drive. If you do daily backups of 100GB and your backup drive is 1 TB, you can store at least around 10 days of history. So if on day 7 you realize that you accidentally deleted a file or realize you got infected with a virus, you can still find your files intact on your drive for 3 more days. In reality, depending on how you configure things, it's often much more than 10 days of safety net because you don't change every file every day, so it will take longer to fill up that 1 TB drive.

And unlike RAID, a portable drive gives you the option of offsite storage. Maybe your neighbor will let you keep it in his garage. Or maybe just a small fireproof safe ...

This is true. You could even store it in a Pelican case in your backyard. But I can virtually guarantee you that if you choose this route, you will eventually become lazy. I did. :D And when you need a backup, you will lose alot more data. Is that important? Well, only you can decide that.

The network drive I have is more than just a drive enclosure. It is basically a mini-computer, so it has alot more functionality than just a USB drive. In addition to automatically making an automatic backup locally, it does the automatic remote backup on my brother's unit at his house. But if you didn't want to go through configuring a backup at your brother's house, it also is easy to configure it to automatically do remote backups on third party servers, just as Amazon's S3.

Dave
 
That's a definite disadvantage against a RAID setup. RAIDs ONLY prevent against disk failure, and nothing else.
Dave

I believe that this is true for some RAID configuration but not for others.

Striping, where each file is spread across multiple drives, has a better data repair capability. I think this is RAID5.

But I have never seen a mother board for a PC that can do that.

The last time I looked, mainframes were running 5 9's of reliability. That is 99.999 percent of uptime.

That is 6 minutes of downtime per year, for a system running continuously.

During that time, any part can be swapped out on the fly, disks, memory, cpu chips, etc.

The reliability of PC systems could easily be improved, but consumers would not want to pay the price to achieve that.

You get what you pay for.
 

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