Sofa in 2720

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F Shuman

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Really disappointed with the sofa. I didn't check it out when I made the purchase - and I wouldn't want a different model, but this is shoddy. First, I thought it made into a double - nope - only 41" wide!

Even worse, when you pull out the seat and put the back down, it is not level! I bought some felt pads amd placed them on the wooden supports below the bed. This leveled it a little but I am disappointed. Guess I will try to locate a foam pad to level things. Maybe TM customer service could supply? Hmmm.
 
I tend to agree. To level it out a bit when in the bed mode, I take the one piece plastic step that came with the TM (to step in the back bed), turn it on its side and put it between the bottom of the couch frame and the carpeted floor. For me it seems to level it and make it more stable. Since I am just over six feet tall, I also have to take out the removable side cushions if I want to sleep in it.
 
Had hoped for more replies . . . surely I am the only person bothered by this. It is really not a dealer issue, but one of design. Help!
 
We just stick a kid or two on ours, they can sleep anywhere :) I've never really owned a rv that the pull out beds were very comfortable in though so I wasn't expecting much.
 
It's similar to the chair that came with my 2720sl. Not very comfortable to me at all. I bought the rocker/recliner from Camping World when it went on sale and it is fantastic! I'm not sure if the sleeper sofa is a standard size that you'd be able to upgrade though - especially since mine has the heater system built underneath.
 
Had hoped for more replies . . . surely I am the only person bothered by this. It is really not a dealer issue, but one of design. Help!


My son's first comment about our 2720SL, "This is not camping! Fridge, AC, bathroom, ...(did not mention TV because we don't want television in our TM). He's a former Boy Scout, and when he camped with his mom and dad, it was in a tent, just like the Boy Scouts. On the other hand, my daughter, looks at our TM and says nothing (probably thinks what she said when she was age 15 (now age 35), "You guys are retarded!").

One of the most disconcerting feelings is when you realize you did not get not get what you think you paid for. There are two realities, yours, and the manufacturers.

I think you've got a valid point about the sofa in all the models that have the SL suffix.... Maybe TM will look for ways to improve on the quality of that bed that sleeps 2(??!)

When we bought our TM, we figured the bed in the back is for "us". When the grandchildren come along, the bed in the back is for everyone. Grandpa can sleep on the sofa.

What I'd like to know is, "Who have you got pegged for the sofa?".
 
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I don't really have a problem with the sofa. It is what it is. Could and should be designed better, but that is beside the point. What I object to is TrailManor counting it as a 2 person bed in computing sleeping capacity. It would hold 2 people, but they would need to be very small and be able to put up with a very uncomfortable bed!
 
I subscribe to some very simple rules in life. One of them is that if you make your guest to comfortable they will 1). never leave or 2) keep coming back. I love the sofa in our 2720 SL.
 
Yeah . . . I wondered about the "sleeps 4" comment. I guess that means 3 in back? Well ... at some point I will modify it ... maybe TM can give us some pointers. Frankly . . . I don't want to "bug" my dealer about it. He is too nice to bother about this stupidity.
 
When we were weighing the various floorplans for our family, we noticed that all of the sofas were only 41 inches wide, so we didn't seriously consider them to be suitable for 2. We also took our kids with us to the RV shows in Denver and folded out the sofa as a bed and had the kids lay on them to see how they worked and whether they were objectionable. I guess in the end our expectations were in line with the product, partly because of the reconnaissance and partly because of some minimal experience renting other types of RV's. We have rented a couple of motor homes and a popup camper before, and even the Flexsteel jack knife sofa in the class-A was always just a sofa-bed; a little bit short with a big gully in the middle where the cushions came together. The dinettes were worse; always short, a nuisance to set up and take down, and never wide enough for 2 without the kids fighting.

Maybe eventually we'll rig up some way of raising the backrest to be level with the bottom cushion, but until the kids get a little older and less flexible we probably won't bother. It shouldn't be hard, just a couple of 1x2 strips or so resting on the angle bracket should do it. Anne pointed out that as our kids get older and want to bring friends that the cushions for the backrest of the loveseat are about the right width to span the gap between the sofa and the loveseat, and this gives a sideways legitimate queen sized bed. So we may figure out a way to support spanning that gap; then we'd have a legit double bed, a queen (that the kids would have to crawl over to get to the bathroom) and the king on our end. I recon that even with some lumpiness of the cushions that the kids will all be happy to be sleeping inside off the ground with AC/Furnace to keep the temperature right.
 
I do forsee a problem IF the grandkids still want to be with us when they outgrow the couch bed. At that point the solution is called "tent"! I suspect everyone will be happy!
 
Short Sofa in 2720 sl

I agree it seemed short. I decided on 2720 sd instead. I had an opportunity to checkout both formats before I sunk my money into one.
 
We Love Our TrailManor

It's the buyer's responsibility to look over and evaluate what they are buying, before making the deal. Frankly, our dealer answered every question we had, to our complete satisfaction and - I have been pleased with the "surprises" we found after the sale. We owned other campers before our TrailManor, so we knew what to look for.

As for the front "sofa/bed" and the chair, from our standpoint they serve the functions intended. More substantial/comfortable furniture would weigh much more and cost much more (The cabinets aren't mahogany, but we knew that before we signed on the dotted line.).

We love our TrailManor! See you on the road!
 
I agree it seemed short. I decided on 2720 sd instead. I had an opportunity to checkout both formats before I sunk my money into one.

I am with KJ on this. On paper, I thought the 2720SL would be perfect for me, but when I went to the dealer and they had a 2720SL and a 2720SD on the lot, I liked the SD better. The booth seating was much more comfortable than the couch and chair, and without the chair, you could add an optional dresser that provided more storage and was suitable to use as a TV stand.
 
I subscribe to some very simple rules in life. One of them is that if you make your guest to comfortable they will 1). never leave or 2) keep coming back. I love the sofa in our 2720 SL.

How true....but the dog likes it!

Kevin
 
Just goes to show you how people have different takes on things (and maybe that is why there are different configurations). Both the wife and I couldn't stand the 'booth' seating on the SD. When relaxing after dinner and watching the tube, we just didn't like sitting at the table. Also, we added a end table to put the tv on, and it fits just fine, even with the chair.

Mike Anderson
 
We pull the sofa out about an inch when sitting on it -- makes the back a more pleasant angle. If you do that, put the table(s) up first. We bought a short recliner from a furniture store -- just made sure that the backdid not sit higher than the counters. Found a great one in the clearance section of a large furniture store. I always tell folks that the 3124KS really sleeps 3 adults -- that sofa would never fit the 2 of us.

Queen
 
We took our (04) out for the first time last month. My Brother and SIL went with us. They are both 150+ so one slept on the couch and the other on the floor on an air mattress. Both slept fine. But tryng to move around with chair moved to in front of the Refr and the extra storage thing moved in front of the sink. Was not fun. However I knew this going in. I never once said "I should have kept my 37' Class A"
 
A friend just bought an 2720SL and the open living room is really nice. They are just two and I can see how the the couch doesn't make a good bed but it's usable. That'll keep them from fighting and one being sent to the front.

With our two little ones, we often all end up in the rear queen and sometimes three of us end up in a front full. By that defintion our 2720 would sleep ten. We are match sticks though.
 

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