How much would you pay for this trailmanor ?

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Considering buying a 2001 2619 ..... I don't think his asking price is quite low enough for me to bite though .... he is the original owner and it is very used :

standard camper/boat mold on all plastic on outside, needs a good deep cleaning

Door latch is broken (has to duct tape door closed !)
3 decent indented scrapes down side of it exterior along with a few other dents
2 of 4 latches (on the 4 corners) broken off
stains on the drapes
floor very worn and peeling up bad enough to prevent fridge from opening
plastic trim by the "guides" on the bottoom side (under the beds) falling off
side pop up panel missing
lots of little trim pieces on the inside cracked/missing
something wrong with the awning (he mentioned duct tape) that supposedly doesn't prevent it from functioning but is somehow messed up ...i didn't get him to show me that though
tires only 2 years old
estimated times on the road between 60-80 :eek:
the ac is like a window unit next to the stove (is that standard) and supposedly works along with the heat ...said the pumps work, the fridge works (although he said it can take up to 8 hours to cool off)
all the exterior metal seemed to have a decent amount of rust
1 big positive is it's right down the road from me and I've been looking for a long time

it's not exactly what I was looking for in terms of model/layout/condition, but if the price is right I would go for it and fix it up some.... how much would you offer ?
 
window cover on front of trailmanor all cracked and barely hanging on
 
You could have a real project on your hands. my biggest concern would be the floor peeling up and all the rust & mold. If the trailer was in a flood (which is what it sounds like), it could have some real serious problems that may or may not be fixable.

That trailer has wood frames between the layers of aluminum. The frames parts on the edges may be replaceable (with a lot of work) but the others are not. The floor is also wood. If you have wood rot in that trailer, it might be a short ride to the dump.

We have a '98 Trailmanor 2720 and we've camped in it 26 times in 2 years. 60-80 trips aren't the issue. It sounds like something bad has happened to this trailer.

The A/C probably is factory. That is where they put it that year. The A/C can be replaced (with a much better unit) fairly easily for under $300. That's not a big deal.

Pictures would be nice but from what you've said, I'd offer him $4000-4500 IF it does not have wood-rot....
 
I'd go look at it first, and then report back. The fixes might not cost that much, but it depends on what's wrong, and in any case it will take a lot of labor. It sounds like they've let this one go and just beat it up. And with the possibility of being flooded, it could be grim, if the water was in there for a long time. The latches and trim pieces aren't that expensive, but it's more time that you can't spend camping.

It's very common to take a long time for the refrigerator to cool down, especially in warmer climates.

If you can go look at it and get some pictures to share, we might get a better idea of what its condition is.
 
I paid $3500 for my 1989 2 years ago but it was all o.k. Except for the drapes. I'm the 3rd owner. Window a/c is great.
 
harveyrv said:
You could have a real project on your hands. my biggest concern would be the floor peeling up and all the rust & mold. If the trailer was in a flood (which is what it sounds like), it could have some real serious problems that may or may not be fixable.

That trailer has wood frames between the layers of aluminum. The frames parts on the edges may be replaceable (with a lot of work) but the others are not. The floor is also wood. If you have wood rot in that trailer, it might be a short ride to the dump.

We have a '98 Trailmanor 2720 and we've camped in it 26 times in 2 years. 60-80 trips aren't the issue. It sounds like something bad has happened to this trailer.

The A/C probably is factory. That is where they put it that year. The A/C can be replaced (with a much better unit) fairly easily for under $300. That's not a big deal.

Pictures would be nice but from what you've said, I'd offer him $4000-4500 IF it does not have wood-rot....
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I dont' think it's been flooded, didn't see any sign of wood rot... this is in louisiana so we just have high humidity... i think it spent a lot of time under a tarp ...the floor is just the laminate peeling up around the edges.... there are all these little things but nothing major so it seems ....I'm just afraid my offer would be insulting ...he ask price is 8500 and I kind of want to pay half that
 
If the latches are pulled out of the wood that they are screwed into, that might be another indication of wood-rot. If the latches are just "Broken", that's something else. The more I read over your discription, the lower my opinion gets of this trailer.

Get the "date code" on those tires.......somehow....I'm skeptical about the "2 years old" tires.

It's a 3-way fridge......make darn good and sure that it works on propane. That is one expensive fridge......

WE NEED PICTURES........:p

$8,500??????? surely he's kidding.......you can buy a California or Arizona trailer that has no rust or all the other issues that you mention for that price.

Trust me....that laminate (if it's the factory laminate) does not just peel up around the edges. That suff is very well glued down. I've never seen a TM with peeling (factory) flooring.
 
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yes he said it also works on gas...he said butane but I'm sure he meant propane :)
 
oh, and as he was closing the back side, it came out of the tracks a couple times.... common ? hard to fix ? something broken allowing that ?
 
how do you go about offering somone nearly 50% of their asking price without offending them ?
 
ProspectiveOwner said:
how do you go about offering somone nearly 50% of their asking price without offending them ?
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What do you care if you offend him? He didn't care about offending you by asking you to spend time looking at a trailer that he's asking $8500 for and clearly isn't worth that much.

$8,500 is about fair market value for an '01 TM in good condition. If anyone should be offended, it should be you.

He should feel very honored that you would even consider making an offer on something in that condition. All he can do is say "No", if he doesn't like the offer. In that case, consider yourself blessed and walk-away.....with a smile...:)

Take a look through these:
http://vehicles.oodle.com/trailmanor/?s=price
 
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You can tell him that based on your research, similar models in better condition have sold for considerably less. This person doesn't seem to be concerned about insulting you by asking way too much for his TM. Because of the design of the TM and the beating any RV takes during transport, they need to be pretty rugged. This means that repairs that might work at home may not necessarily hold up well in the TM. IMHO, I would spend the cost of a trip and possibly motel and travel to get one in better condition at a lower cost.:D
 
ProspectiveOwner said:
oh, and as he was closing the back side, it came out of the tracks a couple times.... common ? hard to fix ? something broken allowing that ?
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He's probably talking about the tracks for the support arms under the bed. There are guides that hold them in, sometimes they become cracked or warped. They're easy to replace and you can get the parts from the factory. Also all the washers & parts that keep the support arms affixed to the track need to properly spaced and adjusted. I'd ask him to be more specific.

If you make a list of all the things that need to be fixed and it's fairly long, this may help justify making a lower offer. How long has it been for sale?

A quick peek at the NADA guide shows a low retail value of about $4K, not that the NADA guides for used TrailManors are always representative of what good, clean used ones sell for. But it's something you can print out and show him.
 
At that price it's not like you have to buy it before someone else does. Give him a list of the things that need to be fixed and offer him $4500. Tell him to take his time. I don't think that unit is going anywhere. Or he could fix all the things that are wrong and you can renegotiate.

One thing to consider if you are going to do the repairs yourself is do you have a good place to work on it and the time to do the work? You should be able to get most of the parts at the facotry or at a good RV store.

If you do get it for a decent price and decide to do the work, you will get lots of help here - just include pictures!

Good luck.
Alan
 
all of the descriptions I've posted about are from me actually seeing it myself.... Guess I'll send him an offer for $4500 ... because I do have other options
 
From what I am reading he is offending you by trying to sell it. Sounds like you might be opening a great can of "unknown problems" if you buy it. RVs are not fun if they cause too many problems. To answer your original question...$0.00.
 
A lot of people list items (like used cars & RVs) at "Fair market value" knowing full well that they will never get anything close to "Fair market value" for the item. They list the item with absolutely no consideration for all of the people that come to see the item and have no interest in buying it due to it's poor condition.

They list it at a price that is far above it's "true value", hoping to find a compromise somewhere between it's "true value" and it's "market value". That type of marketing strategy is flat dishonest and the seller has no consideration for others.

DON'T fall for his game. Set a reasonable offer, based on what you feel it will cost you to get it up to "fair market value" in parts and labor. You may be very sorry if you waver from that.
 
asked a few more questions and made an offer for $4500 ... he responded saying he would order : door latch, front window cover latch, and side access cover..... says it has not experienced any flooding or leaks and that all appliances work to best of his knowledge.... he is including the weight distribution hitch with bars and tote tank.... lowest he is willing to go is $6000 and I believe him (at least for now)
 
how much would those 3 items cost me from trailmanor ?
 
I would run, not walk, from this thing. I don't even think I would pay $4500 for it, in fact I know I wouldn't. There has got to be other TM's out there in better shape and at a much more reasonable amount. I would take your time and do some other looking around. As spring progresses more TM's will show up here.

And lastly, do you really want to spend all your time working on this thing?

Mike Anderson
 
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