Factory/Dealer failure to communicate

Look what I got! Note all the things not available on the 2417. Bummer
Edit: This information should have a thread all it's own. Can a moderator move or copy it to a more logical location?
Edit rev2: This is the only dealer who responded to my request for information http://www.mikejonesmotors.com/ I hope if any of you are ever in the area you will visit them and buy something.
 

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Don't believe everything you see on the Order Sheet! As Arky said, she ordered the large hanging cabinet, and the 3-drawer mobile "dresser". I thought I had pics of the inside of my 2417KD, but I don't find them. But, they are available. You will have to hang the cabinet yourself, but that is simple. All the hardware comes with it.

As for sleeping on the couch - No Way! The Sport is 6" narrower than the Standard. That makes sleeping across the width 6" shorter. Then, the couch has arms, which take about another 6" away from the length. If you are only 5' tall, you could fit, but it would not be comfortable. But, you have a king bed in the back, so I am not sure why one would want to sleep on the couch, if there is only one of you traveling.

You can have TM wire for solar, then get your own panel for much cheaper, with higher output. I like the controller that comes with the TM, so just need to get a panel.

I got the plumb for quick-connect for an outside stove, but I also got a 3-burner to use outside. Nicer than getting all the steam and grease inside the trailer.



Just my thoughts.
 
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The cabinets aren't a concern. I can get them later if need be. I'm just disappointed so many options are listed as not available. The main reason I remodeled my ALiner was so I could sleep lengthwise. It was a bit narrow for me to sleep crosswise. There should be plenty of room for a lengthwise cot/bed board/whatever with the sofa slide out. I haven't seen a TrailManor since 2007 and don't remember very many details but I am hopeful the king bed area will have enough vertical clearance to serve as the storage area for my toys. I have three Folbot kayaks which fit in bags small enough to check as airline luggage. Good idea about factory solar wiring, I haven't checked the solar thread mentioned earlier but was curious as to how the wiring would be routed.
 
The options that truly aren't won't fit in a 2417 Sport are:

Second hanging cabinet - a large one will fit on the wall next to the stove/fridge

Microwave box w/drawer. It could go on counter next to sink, but that is not the same configuration as larger units.

Stove cover - 2417 comes with a 2-burner stove, and it has a cover built-in. The larger models have a 3-burner stove of a different design, so the cover is pertinent to them. Not pertinent in a 2417.

Microwave in place of an oven. There is no oven in a 2417, so it can't be replaced with something else.

I would strongly recommend the cassette toilet. I like the convenience of the cassette. That's me, though.

So, really, the only things not available for a 2417 are a microwave, and a second hanging cabinet. If you get a slide, you will have room for the 3-drawer chest. Without the slide, there is not room for the chest.
 
BTW --- we have a detached garage with an 8' wide door and the 2417 SPORT (even with no awning) would NOT fit thru the 93" opening due to the exterior lights adding about 5" to the published width.....You'll need a 9' single door or shared double bay.....
 
ArkyDoodle said:
BTW --- we have a detached garage with an 8' wide door and the 2417 SPORT (even with no awning) would NOT fit thru the 93" opening due to the exterior lights adding about 5" to the published width.....You'll need a 9' single door or shared double bay.....
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Find my thread on this. I have a 2720SL (standard width) and I fit it routinely into a single garage. I can't recall the exact width now, but I did post it with pics of how I did it.

Yes, the exterior lights needed to be replaced with low profile LEDs, but that was a simple thing to do.
 
ThePair --- Yes, our Sport will fit into our single garage (9' width) but not into the detached garage which has an 8' wide door....just sayin' all single garage doors are not equal in width......So why would anyone spend the $$$ to build a 12' wide detached garage (after the fact) with only an 8' door???

Do you have a link for the three low profile LED lights??? Why doesn't the factory use them, all of the other lighting is LED.......
 
The other width issue is the awning, Maybe I should just remove it entirely when I sell the Vixen so the TM will fit. Had to notch the door & fold the mirrors for the RV.

As to why ? The garage had to fit between the house and the utility setback. It has a double door in the back but manovering space is limited so only straight shot is from front. Was not an issue 20 years ago when built and until now.
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My garage before global warming. Edit: I forgot to mention the measurements of the opening. 82 3/4" (6' 10 3/4") high by 187 1/4" (15' 7 1/4") wide.
 

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BTW after removing the awning I noticed the patio (porch) lights on both sides stick out a lot more than the clearance lights
 
Good info Padgett, might come in handy for others. As you can see I finally posted a picture of my garage. My issue is clearance for my wife's car door. The lights, awnings, etc. should not be a factor. I have learned a lot from the folks on this site and appreciate it very much. As of now I am leaning toward making do with my ALiner for a little bit longer. Perhaps TrailManor will have a better dealer network in the not too distant future. I have found only one dealer I deem worthy of my trust and that is not good. The ALiner can handle the long distance trips I am already committed to which are a reunion with my shipmates in Nashville this fall followed by an annual gathering of fellow Folbot owners at Flamingo campground in the Everglades during the last part of January and first part of February. Next year the ship's reunion is in Portland, OR and I hope to have a new camper for that trip as I intend to wander around on the way out and back.
 
ArkyDoodle said:
ThePair --- Yes, our Sport will fit into our single garage (9' width) but not into the detached garage which has an 8' wide door....just sayin' all single garage doors are not equal in width......So why would anyone spend the $$$ to build a 12' wide detached garage (after the fact) with only an 8' door???

Do you have a link for the three low profile LED lights??? Why doesn't the factory use them, all of the other lighting is LED.......
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http://www.innovativelight.com/

The fixture I have is no longer for sale, nor does it appear on their site, but they have many other options now. Mine looks just like the "LED Surface Mount Light 200-5503", but they have a newer option Courtesy Light - 4 LED Surface Mount that has 4 LEDs rather than 2. Should be brighter, which I wouldn't complain about if I were doing it again -- mine throw off very little light.
 
Well my single door measures 96" wide, with a but of trimming I can get 97" and by moving the rails it looks like 98" is possible.

OTOH a standard TM is 7'7" (91") plus 5" for lights/awning/door roller or 96". Really need to flush mount a few things like clearance and patio lights if I need to get in there.

The Vixen is 85" wide and I still had to notch the door for the mirrors.
 
My understanding is, the former TM dealer in Hanover who is now a CW, still has their TM license, but do not regularly stock TM!s. Don't know if one could work some arrangement out or not. I believe they could service one, assuming the same technicians are still employed there. Disappointing as they were very good to work with before.
 
When I needed some parts JD Saunders in Alachua, FL 32615 provided friendly service and I had the parts the same week.
 
I have a 2417 sport (the original floorplan) We have a 7ft opening on our garage. We have the AC and the lift kit and it fits just fine. It looked like it was going to hit, but I got on a step stool and looked at the roof & opening as my husband moved it through the door and it cleared with an inch or two to spare. Without the lift it would several inches shorter.

Great floorplan. We could have got the 2619 with the swing hitch, but we really wanted the king sized bed, where no one had to climb over anyone.
 
Newer TMs claim 79.5 over the roof AC so should have no trouble with a 7' door though you may have to adjust the stop so it opens at least 82" My concern is width though an 8' door, not height.
 
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Padgett said:
by moving the rails it looks like 98" is possible.

OTOH a standard TM is 7'7" (91") plus 5" for lights/awning/door roller or 96".
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According to TM's website the width is 7'11" (95")
 
7'7" + 5" is 7'12" or 8'=96" - from chart in 2006 brochure. Wonder how many are sold without awning. clearance lights, or patio lights.
 
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