Bunk beds in a 2720SL...a reality!

ThePair

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So, as my twins get a little older, we decided it was time that my son didn't sleep on the dog bed on the floor any more. DW suggested an air mattress, but I thought I could do something that would be more elegant, and less obtrusive to the floor space...plus wouldn't involve me inflating/deflating each time.

Thus was born my quest for bunk beds. In the 2720SL. One winter of thinking and searching later, and here's my solution.

The bed itself is a Disc-O-Bed Cam-O-Cot single. These beds are made to be stacked as bunkbeds, but I only needed the one.

Link here to the bed: http://www.discobed.com/?products/9

Now, we needed to raise the back legs quite a bit, as seen in the pictures below. So, we get the extension legs in tan, and put 2 each on the back legs, none on the front: http://www.discobed.com/?products/9#&&id=107&p=products

The back legs are now a few inches too long, but that's simple to fix, just cut down two of the extension legs, and we're done. Now the Header and Footer fit just fine, but the bars that run the length of the bed are a bit too long. Fortunately, the center piece (they're each 3 pieces) is a non-tapered tube, so I cut the length of that piece down to fit, and it easily reconnects with the end pieces. Both of these changes do not affect the integrity of the frame at all. Finally, I shortened the bed webbing by taking a few inches off the end, and sewing on a new hem (a sewing machine works wonders here!)

For day-to-day, I plan to leave the long sides connected, with the sling wrapped around them, on the back shelf behind the sofa, and the sides will rest on the side of the room (where I keep some other things against the wall, like folding chairs and the trash can). Set up will be a simple matter of removing the arms from the couch, putting the sides into place, then snapping in the webbing/long sides. Reverse to convert back to daytime use. The whole thing will break down fairly compactly for storage and travel, and only weighs a total of ~30#.

Yes, the front legs are resting on the tables. The sides of those tables go all the way down and rest on the floor, and are designed to carry the majority of the weight that might be placed on the table at any given time, so in this matter I expect the weight on the bed to translate directly down to the floor. The back legs rest on the solid frame of the couch, so there should be no issue there. If the table becomes problematic, it would be a simple matter to add more brackets around the inside of the table frame, and perhaps even one directly into the floor, but I'm not yet convinced that that is needed. Plus, my son only weighs 40# right now, so each of those legs will only be holding 10-25# tops at any given time. Perhaps as he gets older I'll strengthen the attachments.

I like this because there are no modifications to the TM itself, and the cot is still completely useable as a cot on its own, if desired, by simply removing the extension legs. Plus, it solves my problem nicely. ;)

I'll certainly add a post with my experiences once we get out and camping, roughly 1 month from now.
 

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Looks like a great solution for your growing family! Please do report back with your camping experience when you get to use it. And thanks for posting your great idea & pictures!
 
What a great product! This would be handy for anyone to have on hand at home or in the TM for extra beds.
Or to be used in a tent alongside the TM for other campers.
I like the way it breaks down and packs into its own carry bag!
Thanks for sharing, ThePair!

Karen
 
How much is the cot?

Koz

The cot is available exclusively through Cabela's, I think it was ~$110 or so. The leg extensions can be had directly through the manufacturer, I think they were ~$20. Don't quote me on the prices, though ;)
 
That is very excellent, indeed. Thanks for the write-up! I haven't looked at the sofa very well lately -- how are the arm rests attached? Presuming they are screwed in somehow, did you modify them in a way in which they can be removed/reattached regularly?

Dave
 
That is very excellent, indeed. Thanks for the write-up! I haven't looked at the sofa very well lately -- how are the arm rests attached? Presuming they are screwed in somehow, did you modify them in a way in which they can be removed/reattached regularly?

Dave

The arms on my sofa came removable from the factory. They simply lift away, presumably to allow for a few extra inches of length on the bed. So, no modifications were made to the TM at all--when the bed is put away, the TM is stock.

Tiny update: I showed the bunks to the kids, and they both climbed on top, at the same time. So, that's ~80# total kid weight on the bed, and absolutely no signs that the supporting tables cared, as I suspected. To stabilize the bunk, I've attached straps that go from the head/foot bars around the "stumps" of the couch sides (If you go to the disc-o-bed website and look at the picture of the bunkbeds there, you'll get the idea). These straps make the upper bunk 99% immobile, so there's no risk of shifting while the little ones climb in and out. I can take a pic if anyone wants.
 
The arms on my sofa came removable from the factory.

Interesting. I kinda doubt they are that way on mine, but I'll have to check in detail the next time I open the TM.

To stabilize the bunk, I've attached straps that go from the head/foot bars around the "stumps" of the couch sides (If you go to the disc-o-bed website and look at the picture of the bunkbeds there, you'll get the idea). These straps make the upper bunk 99% immobile, so there's no risk of shifting while the little ones climb in and out. I can take a pic if anyone wants.

Sounds like a very worthwhile step. It would be great to see a picture of this!

Dave
 
Wow, clever indeed!

What would you guess the weight capacity is for that? I guess I thought to test the load capacity of the table frames for use like that.

I've yet to get my TM out this year as I've been busy with wedding planning (Aug 18th!). I'm getting very ancy to get it out and start prepping for our 2nd season of camping and personalizing our TM!
 
The table frames will clearly be the load-limiting part of the puzzle. The bed itself is rated for 250#, and the back two legs are on the solid portions of the frame for the couch. So, it's all about the tables in the front, but those frames extend all the way to the floor, and they're designed not to collapse from weight on the table itself. So, you're guess is as good as mine, but with 80# of kids + 30# of bed up there, they didn't show any flex or bend from the wall, at all. I cannot say the same is true when I'm removing the leaf from the table, so I'm confident that the weight is translating down to the floor as planned, and not putting significant stress on the wall attachments.

I have not yet tried climbing up there, as there is no reason to take that risk right now. I'm just going to keep a close eye on things as the kids get bigger, and worry about strengthening the system (which looks to be an easy modification) if I see any signs of stress.

In truth, with the couch pulled out, there really isn't anywhere for the table to collapse TO, if it is going to, if you get my drift. Forward is the only possibility, but then the forward and rear bracing would have to fail, on both sides, simultaneously. I simply don't see that happening, especially with one kid sleeping up there, with the weight distributed over four legs (six if you include the two sides of the table framing).

Certainly, I'll update if anything goes amiss. :eek:
 
*If* the tables became an issue, could you cut a hole in the table big enough for the bunk legs to pass thru to reach the floor and then just add a desk grommet in the table?

maybe something like this ?

Or is there table hardware/reinforcement in the way?
 
Reinforcing the existing frame would be a simple matter. I'd just run a strip of metal along the inside top and sides down to the floor, and a little angle at each corner, and that would be that. If the tale pulls away from the wall at all, a few more angles attached would fix that, too. Really not a big deal, I dont think.

My buddy s a general contractor, I just had him look at the setup, and he agrees: likely fine, easy to strengthen if necessary.

If I wanted to engineer this to really hold an adult's weight, I'd add supports within the frame, as above. I'm just not at all convinced I need that, at least not right now.
 
Interesting. I kinda doubt they are that way on mine, but I'll have to check in detail the next time I open the TM.



Sounds like a very worthwhile step. It would be great to see a picture of this!

Dave

Here. This is two left over straps I had laying around that I stuck together. One strap would be a little neater, but it doesn't bother me, not for this application.
 

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Update: three trips into the season, over a dozen nights spent asleep, and the bunk beds are a huge hit!

During the day, I roll the sling between the two long sides and leave it with the kids' bedding on the shelf behind the couch (the disc parts lift away from the head and footers with the long bars attached). At night I just roll it back out. I tend to leave the head and foot where they are, since the kids are usually the only ones sitting on the couch during the day, but if I want to sit, it's minimal to put the bar up against the wall if it's bothering me.
 

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