2417 Sport vs Std

[Brutus-TMO]

Hey Bob and Cleo,
according to your website, the 2417 Sport is 24' open and 17' closed. The 2417 Standard is 24' open and 18' closed. Sounds like a 2418 to me. Just sayin'....

 

[LoveToCamp-TMO]

And, if you look at the floorplans on the TM site, while the Std is 78" wide, the dinette in both models is 72" wide, but longer in the Std. Seems like it would be wider in the Std, not longer. I sent them emails about it, but nothing has changed.

 

[Brutus-TMO]

lol! Yeah, they seem stuck in their ways....

Edit: Although I gotta give them credit for answering the owner's call for a lighter weight RV that has a king bed. Just seems that there's enough differences between the 2417s (vs say the three 2720 versions) that they should be separated. Not a big deal. They'll both sell well because the floor plans are perfect for folks in that niche.

 

[LoveToCamp-TMO]

Well, with the announcement in the newsletter of a 2417 Classic with the slide available in 2014 models, I may have to change trailers sooner than I expected. Was going to wait until retired to get a 2922, but may have to go with the 2417SL. Still should get most places I currently go on Jeep roads, just a bit wider than my Sport.

Can't wait to see it! But, I want the stove to be removable, so I can take a 3-burner stove outside, and not be stuck with a 2-burner built-in. Not enough room to store a second stove.

 

[Brutus-TMO]

Yeah, looks like a winner: Minimal exterior with maximum interior. Camper Outlet is already listing a 2014 2417SL, although they are showing a built-in range.

http://www.rvtrader.com/listing/2014-Trailmanor-2417SL-Standard-110876737

Edit: Will be very interested to see the tongue weight on the 2417SL. Current 2417 Std is listed 320# naked, only 26# less than a "Std" 2720. Looks like judicious axle placement is called for to keep the target audience (Class II towing folks) from going over their 350# max tongue weight (sans any WDH options). Even then, looks like they may need their battery in the rear and LP tank in the TV. ...and then there's always the potential sway concerns with pushing the low-tongue-weight envelope... Time will tell. Definitely nice to see corporate introducing more new ideas in the "Give-Me-A-King-Bed-In-A-Smaller-RV" realm...

 

[LoveToCamp-TMO]

Ordered a replacement

Well, I did it: sold my 2417 Sport, and ordered a 2417KD. Thought the wife would like the sofa in the slide, but she preferred the dinette.

More room inside than the Sport. Plus, the dinette/bed is wide enough for a short adult to sleep in comfortably, instead of 6" narrower in the Sport model.

Lots of improvements over the earlier models. Bigger 'fridge, self-igniting water heater, 30-gal grey tank, bigger toilet cassette, to name a few. Can't wait to get it, maybe 4-6 weeks.

As for the tongue wt; 40-gal fresh water tank is in the rear storage area, and the battery is under the bench in the slide. Water in back will lighten the tongue wt considerably, as opposed to the KB model, where the water is up-front.

 

[TrailManorMan]

Congrats, I'm jealous!

 

[Bailey'sMom]

Congrats Love to Camp

Good for you. Can't wait to hear what you think when you get it and use it. If they had this last year I might have strongly considered it. The extra floor space was essential for me and my dog. The original 2417 was too tight for us.

I like having the dinette also, but wish they had a different style table, one that is not attached to the wall. I would prefer one that is freestanding like my old popup. As a larger person, it is a tight squeeze to fit in the dinette, and difficult to reach the front overhead cabinet.

Freestanding table would allow easy removal, or shove it to one side for better access. In fact I am planning to order one from my local camper dealer. It is same width but freestanding.

 

[LoveToCamp-TMO]

Glad you have a table solution. I was going to recommend that, but you already figured that out.

Looking forward to getting it. Definitely taking it to Telluride, CO in June. Hope we can do something local sooner. Depends on what snow falls in the next 3 months.

 

[MarkoPolo-TMO]

Good for you....see what happens when you go to the Denver RV Show. That's how the 2922 appeared in our life Would have liked the 40 gal water tank, but TM decided that much weight aft might cause more sway problems. I would think pulling the trailer with water might exacerbate sway issues....I would be very careful about sway until you have some miles with it and I still think a WD/anti-sway hitch is money well spent.

 

[LoveToCamp-TMO]

Mark - I had the sale and order in the works prior to the show. The show is where we first saw the TM, though, two years ago.

The 40 water tank was behind the axle in our original 2417, also, and I always traveled with it full. Don't want to take a chance on not having water where we go, whether it is bad, turned-off, or just not available. Yes, it's 10% more weight, but worth not having to worry about it.

I'll take it to the scales on one of my early trips, to see just what everything weighs, ready for a week-long outing.

 

[Brutus-TMO]

LoveToCamp, belated congrats! If I were looking for a TM today, I think one of the wider 2417s with a slider would be ideal. Thanks for the info on different water tank placements. For now at least, I plan to run our 2720 indefinitely. Years down the line, if someone trades in their 2417 KS or KD, me thinks I may have to give it serious look!

 

[LoveToCamp-TMO]

Thanks! I know the 2417 is the right size for what we want to do (off-road camping). I like the KD much better than the KB, plus the Standard width instead of the Sport. Just two of us, but the floorplan is much more open in the Standard KD.

While a larger unit may be nice if we stayed in campgrounds all the time, I don't see that happening for us. We will sometimes be in campgrounds (when going to National Parks, and not wanting to take a chance on finding some boondock spot nearby), but I like to be away from people when enjoying quiet time.