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11-23-2021, 10:27 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Shane826
Tymanthius- Is that am AC/DC compressor fridge?
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That's what it appears to be.
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11-23-2021, 12:30 PM
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You're not dense. My thought was using a cutting board to cover the stove top as you see in the picture. That's not my pic, but someone else's. When not cutting stuff on a cutting board, it does make a good stop top cover.
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11-23-2021, 01:20 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: The mountains of Scottsdale, AZ, and the beaches of Maine
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Your Nova Kool R4500 is indeed a compressor refrig. The specs say that it will use 4.4 amps when running on 12 VDC. This is much less than the 15 or so amps needed by the TM's stock Dometic refrig. In addition, the compressor is much more efficient at producing cold, so it will run much less often. And your Nova Kool does have an automatic low-battery shutoff, which would / should prevent the battery exhaustion problem inherent in the Dometic.
The place where you lose, of course, is that it is a 2-way refrig (no operation on gas) rather than 3-way. Three-way operation requires a different cooling mechanism (absorption rather than compression) that is by definition very inefficient - it is not just the Dometic unit that suffers this limit. Absorption refrigerators were invented 100 years ago, and have continued through the era when solar power was very expensive. Solar power is now quite cheap. I have to believe that 3-way refrigerators will soon be considered a dinosaur, and likely will disappear
If you are talking about using a microwave and an electric skillet, then you are expecting to camp where there is an electric hookup. Once you have a hookup, you don't care what the refrig draws. So as your initial post indicated, your only concern is power while driving. My recommendation, as I mentioned earlier, is simply to turn it off while driving. But since it is going to consume only 50 watts or so, a small solar panel - even 50-75 watts - would keep the TM battery charged while driving, even if the tow vehicle battery doesn't. The panel would have to be mounted on the roof of the TM, of course.
So you have a couple options. A nice situation to be in.
Bill
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11-23-2021, 03:35 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Rochester, NY
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Bill- Is the Dometic 3-way fridge as power hungry (especially in 12V mode) as the old Norcold 300.3?
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11-23-2021, 04:11 PM
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Site Team
Join Date: Feb 2003
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I have a Dometic RM2354, which is relatively new to the TM line. And yes, it is a power hog, at somewhere between 11 and 15 amps as near as I can tell from various RV discussion boards (Dometic seems reluctant to say). As I recall, the old Norcold 300.3 was spec'ed at about 11 amps. The new Dometic is spec'ed at 3.0 cu ft, while the old Norcold was 2.7 cu ft.
Bill
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11-23-2021, 10:02 PM
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My Dometic (can’t remember the model off hand) only consumes 9-10 amps.
Dave
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11-23-2021, 10:25 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2021
Location: Georgia
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If you recently purchased a used TM, I recommend getting the battery checked or replaced. Make sure basic maintenance is done, in particular, check out brakes, axle lubrication and tire age. If the tires are over 10 years old and look perfect, replace them. This includes the spare.
We just purchased a new TM 3124. I have 2, 25 foot cords and an adapter to go from the 30A twist lock to 30A park power connector. That way if one cable fails we have a backup. For some camp sites, 25 ft is not long enough. I should probably get some electrical tape to wrap the connection in case of rain. We also have a 12AWG 15A cable that we can use 'just in case 30A is not enough".
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11-24-2021, 07:23 AM
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Join Date: Nov 2021
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kjfatl
If you recently purchased a used TM, I recommend getting the battery checked or replaced. Make sure basic maintenance is done, in particular, check out brakes, axle lubrication and tire age. If the tires are over 10 years old and look perfect, replace them. This includes the spare.
We just purchased a new TM 3124. I have 2, 25 foot cords and an adapter to go from the 30A twist lock to 30A park power connector. That way if one cable fails we have a backup. For some camp sites, 25 ft is not long enough. I should probably get some electrical tape to wrap the connection in case of rain. We also have a 12AWG 15A cable that we can use 'just in case 30A is not enough".
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I got lucky on this one. The battery is no more than 2 years old, bearings recently packed, one brake replaced (he bought the whole brake before he found out the wires were just clipped, so I have a spare used brake), new shoes on other side, tires still have a few of the new tire dangles on them. Spare too.
I'm thinking of adding a 50' 'spare' 30A line soon, and already have a good 15A extension cord, plus adapters, and a 50A to 30A dogbone.
I've ordered some gaffer's tape to keep in it (and some for home, it's been on the list for a bit), and I'll add some Rescue Tape (silicone tape that only sticks to itself) for water repairs.
But thank you for feeding me ideas! It helps to make sure I'm not missing anything that will be annoying when I'm at a campground.
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11-27-2021, 01:28 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2021
Location: Los Angeles, CA
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For the kitchen, I sprung for this set of nesting pots/pans.
https://smile.amazon.com/STANSPORT-H...8001170&sr=8-7
They are a little heavy, but I cook a lot in our TM, and they have been really awesome. Plus, they take up just the space of the biggest pot. I also keep one of these folding steamer trays inside the smallest pot.
Get some nesting bowls too, and another option for cheap but good utensils and silverware is to go to IKEA, Target or Walmart. For when we have hookups, I bought cheap plastic plates from Target that’s meant for college students. I also also have this as a drying rack over the sink
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/...e?ie=UTF8&th=1
And I bring extra little $1 drying towels I got from Daiso to dry the pots with. Don’t forget a meat thermometer and a stick lighter for when your stove won’t light. And I bought a small tea kettle that has a temperature gauge since I like to drink tea.
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11-27-2021, 08:42 AM
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Site Sponsor
Join Date: Jun 2003
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I outfitted our TM by going to the Goodwill or Salvation Army stores. They have most anything you need for your kitchen needs.
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