Microsoft announces "end of life" date for Windows XP - Page 7

scrubjaysnest · 11-24-2014, 04:49 AM

DW survived the win 8.1 transition this weekend. Got our records over and she can get her books down loaded from the library. Quicken 2015 was a little hassle since it wouldn't run right under admin. Had to set up another user with admin rights. That is a Quicken bit of stupid. Now why in the world wouldn't you let the admin have printer rights or be able to save a file anywhere.

I'm still moving everything over to win 7 and to be honest I don't really see much difference between win 7 and 8.1.
We did use the guy we bought the computer from to decrap the win 8.1 machine.
@ Bill, looks like Toshiba has gotten as bad as Dell.

funpilot · 11-24-2014, 07:10 AM

I have Win 8.1 PRO and still think I am using Windows 7. I use this wonderful addon:

http://www.stardock.com/products/start8/

Learning curve for DW was under 5 seconds.

scrubjaysnest · 03-15-2015, 06:33 PM

I was setting up Thunderbird on the win 7 to access our email accts. Ran smack dab into the wizzin contest between the Mozzila group and Google.
Same e-mail client works fine of on XP. I guess Google figures people using XP aren't a threat to their security.

**Bill** · 03-15-2015, 07:21 PM

Thunderbird works fine for me on Windows 7. Like Firefox, T-bird seems to be updated weekly or more often, and I am now runnig V31.5.0. I'm not sure where Google comes into the mix. Is G-mail your email server? I haven't tried it, so I have no experience to offer.

Incidentally, I absolutely despise Windows 7 - or more accurately the ribbon interface. While I can deal with it in the OS, it has made Office (Word and PowerPoint especially) useless to me. I have actually installed both Office 2003 and Office 2010 on my machine, and to my surprise, they seem to co-exist well. But 2003 is my go-to installation. I use 2010 only when I have to. Like you, I was perfectly happy with Windows XP, and used it for its entire life cycle. But Bill Gates was not happy with me.

I would love to have a tutorial about modifying the ribbon interface, and making the changes stick, from anyone who knows how to do it.

[rant off]

Anyway, if I can help with Thunderbird, let me know. PM or email probably best.

Bill

scrubjaysnest · 03-16-2015, 05:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill

Thunderbird works fine for me on Windows 7. Like Firefox, T-bird seems to be updated weekly or more often, and I am now runnig V31.5.0. I'm not sure where Google comes into the mix. Is G-mail your email server? I haven't tried it, so I have no experience to offer.

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Bill

Google, gmail, wants e-mail clients to set imap as the default instead of pop3 and use Oauth2 for security access. Not a lot of difference between imap and pop3 other then imap maybe little more stable and sync is easier. I think Oauth2 is just another multi step log in procedure. Some where in mid 2014 Google switched log in methods for new accounts and wanted old accounts to switch from pop3 to imap for email client use. If you just use your browser to log in nothing changed. Those of us that use an email client to down load email we want to save are the ones bumping into this.
This isn't scheduled as a fix in T-bird until version 38 which may be out in May of this year.
In the mean time I just set the gmail acct to less secure apps and its happy with T-bird.

A note here the latest T-bird version for xp is 12.0.1 and I just down load some emails from a gmail acct no argument and with changing the acct security settings.

What ever happened to the KISS principle

Padgett · 03-16-2015, 07:25 AM

Heck I still use Eudora (OSE is Thunderbird based).

Must admit my personal desktop (this PC) is a cobbled together mess running Win7-64 with many peripherals, dual display, and wired ethernet (85.91 GB/s down) though I have several tabs & desktops running Win8, 8.1, 8.1 update, and 10 preview. Plus my old XP netbook & some even older stuff - what happens when you've been in the same home for 30+ years).

Latest is a 12" tablet/notebook & 8.1 update which is nice but not without issues.

BTW IMNSHO there is nothing wong with XP so long as you have a good current anti-virus/malware/spamware.

**wbmiller3** · 03-16-2015, 07:24 PM

It's been a while since I posted in this thread. After getting a look at the Windows 10 preview, I realized that my Windows days were over since I don't care for the path they are headed down. I've now converted totally over to Ubuntu Linux. I still retain the ability to boot into Windows for the very few Windows apps that I haven't been able to get to work with virtualization or emulation layers.

It was by no means an easy transition but so worth it to know that I'll never have to pay a dime for an operating system ever again. They also have a totally free office suite that supports the Windows office formats.

My family members are running out the clock on their current Windows PCs and I still have a Win 7 print and file server on the family LAN. But I'm never giving Microsoft or Apple another penny.

Padgett · 03-17-2015, 09:41 AM

Agree on free but I have a number of fanless tablets and the thermal/power management drivers for these do not seem to exist for Linux. Intel just released it for 64 bit Windows in November.

I also have a lot of third party apps that work only with Windows. May be forced over someday but have a number of Win 8 devices that will probably get a free upgrade to 10 which does work well so may stay there.

OTOH retirement is imminent and not sure what I'll be doing then except hoping to use the TM a lot more.

scrubjaysnest · 03-17-2015, 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wbmiller3

It's been a while since I posted in this thread. After getting a look at the Windows 10 preview, I realized that my Windows days were over since I don't care for the path they are headed down. I've now converted totally over to Ubuntu Linux. I still retain the ability to boot into Windows for the very few Windows apps that I haven't been able to get to work with virtualization or emulation layers.

It was by no means an easy transition but so worth it to know that I'll never have to pay a dime for an operating system ever again. They also have a totally free office suite that supports the Windows office formats.

My family members are running out the clock on their current Windows PCs and I still have a Win 7 print and file server on the family LAN. But I'm never giving Microsoft or Apple another penny.

This is a move I would like to make but we have to much software that isn't Linux supported. For example none of Garmin mapping software will run on it and I use this a lot for trip planning. There is some pushing of Garmin on the Garmin forums though. Won't do much good I think; their latest mapping software doesn't work well on windows and the Mac people aren't to happy either. There older stuff for XP runs very well on win 7, even has some features that didn't show up on my XP machine. One of the few pluses I've seem with the win 7 move.

**wbmiller3** · 03-17-2015, 08:06 PM

There are workarounds depending on how much time you want to spend. For example I run a complete legal copy of Windows 7 in a virtual machine on my Linux box, it runs just like any other app. That's how I run Turbotax for example, since it is not supported by Linux. The only things that don't work satisfactorialy in virtual machines for me are certain high end games.

Obviously you need a pretty powerful PC for that since you are essentially running 2 pcs worth of software on a single machine at the same time plus the overhead of virtualization for one of them. But powerful PCs are pretty cheap now.

Here's a screenshot of me running windows 7 in a virtual machine on my linux desktop.