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Old 09-07-2013, 04:24 PM   #1
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My DH and I have a Chalet Arrowhead that we absolutely love. But we've been thinking lately about how nice it would be to have some extra room. The thing that has always stopped us is that the Chalet is very light and can be stored in our garage.

Enter the Trailmanor, which I just learned about a couple of weeks ago.

We went to look at them in person today at our nearby dealer. The 2417 seems like it would be absolutely perfect for our needs. However, and I realize we're probably in the minority, we really don't have much of a desire to have a bathroom. We were tent campers for many years and our Chalet doesn't have a bathroom. Shower houses, vault toilets and a luggable loo are just fine for us. On the other hand, we do know that having a bathroom might help with resale.

If we have to choose, we'd really rather have more storage space. From what I gather, the bathroom in the 2417 is an option but I can't seem to find any pictures anywhere of one without the bathroom. I'm assuming that in place of the bathroom, there are cabinets but it would be nice to see a photo to be sure it's enough to give up a bathroom.

Does anyone here have a 2417 without the bathroom that you could share a picture of? Or does anyone have a link to a manufacturer photo they could pass along? I'd really appreciate it! Thanks!
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Old 09-07-2013, 05:51 PM   #2
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Having come from the same camping "tree", ie; tent camping, pop up without bathroom, I suggest that the bathroom might be much more useful and desirable than you think now. Really, the ability to take a real shower and the nighttime convenience are some of the Trailmanor pluses that we thought would be just OK, but now we wouldn't want to be without. Just my DW's and my two cents worth!
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Old 09-07-2013, 05:56 PM   #3
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We thought the bathroom and hot water heater were ridiculously over the top for camping. Now, wouldn't want to go without them!

At least when we bought ours many years ago, there was not an option to delete the bathroom. We probably would have, and never known what we missed.
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Old 09-07-2013, 07:48 PM   #4
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The TM Website for the 2417 shows "Storage, or Optional Bath...".

Also went the tent-> camper w/no facilities -> TM

I didn't want to get the toilet/shower, but DW insisted. I am glad she did! As WB said, it is so nice to have a hot shower (granted, they are Navy showers, but a shower none-the-less) after getting sweaty or sticky during the day. Now, if you ALWAYS camp in a campground with a shower house, that is not an issue. We camp off the beaten path, so there is nothing at all available.

Don't dismiss the shower, just because you have never had one. Sponge baths are one thing. A shower is much more satisfying.

Get the 40 gallon water tank, though. We can go a week with every-other-night showers, or every night without washing DW hair, on one 40-gallon tank.

By the way, we keep the bathroom folded during the day, and only open it at night. It "opens-up" the trailer with the bathroom closed. Also gives you more counter space during the day.
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Old 09-07-2013, 07:49 PM   #5
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If I were buying the 2417 model I would also forgo the bathroom and get cabinet instead. Just because it is pretty tiny in there. Although I would recommend the new 2417 slide model which would make it feel much more spacious. You would then have space to put your own portapotty.

That being said, I would never want to give up the 3 burner stove and larger refrig with freezer that I have in my 2720sd.

If you see one in person, try to go when a factory rep will be there and you will get a better idea of what cabinet would replace the bath. I think you could get both 3 drawers and a cabinet with shelves. Could probably also get a hanging cabinet to go over it.

The bath in the 2417 is a "wet" bath which is very different than any of the other models and while I liked the idea of the cassette toilet I didn't like the amount of space it took up in that tiny trailer. I was seriously looking at the 2417 this spring and would NOT have gotten the bath.

Don't worry about resale unless you don't plan to keep it for at least five years. Buy it how you want it. I would think it would be a big step up space wise from what you have now.
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MNA, you may want to PM TM owner Laura FM for a quick pic. She has a 2417 w/o toilet.

http://www.trailmanorowners.com/foru...ighlight=laura

IIRC (others please help me out), the toilet option in a 2417 is like $2100. Of course you'd get a decent chunk back on resale, but that's still a pretty stiff price-per-pee/poop ratio. That said, most of us that have been spoiled would pay it. Bottom line: get it the way you want it and don't look back.
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Old 09-08-2013, 08:09 AM   #7
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Wow...thanks so much for all the help/input! Honestly, the shower is the only reason we might even consider that option. There's definitely nothing better than getting clean after a day of hiking/biking/bug spray. And we do tend to go off the beaten path more often than not. But more storage in that small space sure seems like a good idea and might make it more "livable" for us since at this point, we're really only weekend campers and we're usually only without a shower for one full day. Plus, the $2100 price tag does give us pause.

However, I saw that Trailmanor posted pics on their Facebook page last night of the new 2417 with the slide-out. That's definitely the configuration we'd like to get and the new floorplan they posted doesn't say the bath is optional. I wonder if they're just going to make it standard for 2014? Anyone know?
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However, I saw that Trailmanor posted pics on their Facebook page last night of the new 2417 with the slide-out. That's definitely the configuration we'd like to get and the new floorplan they posted doesn't say the bath is optional. I wonder if they're just going to make it standard for 2014? Anyone know?
MNA I don't know for sure, but what I do know is they are very accommodating if you buy new and order it instead of buying off dealer lot. That's why if you can speak direct with a factory rep you could get a better idea. Your dealer might also know. I don't see why they wouldn't still have bath as optional unless they are trying to just bundle so price of the option doesnt look crazy.

Even if it is now standard, based on how much more a bath costs, you should be able to get a discount for going with storage instead of bath. Still way less cost toTM.

if you are only going for weekends at this point I would vote for more storage. I too love to get rid of the suntan lotion at end of day, and while I have a shower I have not used it yet in 28 days of camping because they have shower building where I camp and I prefer unlimited water to a navy shower. Plus I am not a tiny person and I would feel very cramped in my shower in the 2720.

Just my thoughts.

PS. What does IIRC. Mean?
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Old 09-08-2013, 12:45 PM   #9
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I *think* IIRC means "If I recall correctly."

I keep forgetting that you can pretty much get exactly what you want with TrailManor. A big plus. Our local dealer is The Car Show and from what I've read on this forum and elsewhere, they're pretty accommodating. When we get to that point, I'll talk to them more in depth about ordering one from the factory with the features we want.

Thanks again for all your help and thoughts!

BTW, Bailey's Mom, love the pic of your four-legged kid. We have two dogs who camp with us and to be honest, one of the reasons we're thinking of getting a bigger camper is because it is TIGHT on the full-sized bed in the Chalet with the four of us.
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I *think* IIRC means "If I recall correctly."


BTW, Bailey's Mom, love the pic of your four-legged kid. We have two dogs who camp with us and to be honest, one of the reasons we're thinking of getting a bigger camper is because it is TIGHT on the full-sized bed in the Chalet with the four of us.
Oh yes they sure take up a lot of space. I have a queen bed with just bailey and me and for a 60 lb dog, she sure takes up a lot of space. She is quite tall so when she stretches out she is probably 4'7".

Btw she is another reason I got the slide model so there was plenty of floor space for food water etc.
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