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Old 09-25-2012, 10:04 PM   #1
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Default Looking at '99 3124king

I am looking at a 3124king that has hail damage and is priced at $3K. It seems to be in decent shape, mainly requiring a good cleaning inside and out. The hail damage is cosmetic except for a hole in the A/C cover and one in the awning end cap. I have some questions about a few other issues that I noticed.

1. The seals between the beds and the shells are worn, and don't appear to be flexible enough to make a seal any more. Does anyone know the approximate cost to replace those seals, and probably the ones between the shells as well?

2. The shells went up and down pretty well, but seemed to wiggle and squirm a bit on the way. How hard is it to adjust the lift mechanism (is it DIY, or a dealer only process).

3. Does anyone know if the 1999 had wood in the shells? We are in Colorado, so I am not too concerned about rot, but would be good to know.

4. The curtains are all shot. Not a big deal to sew some more, but is it hard to get the tabs to attach them. Also, the bed end curtain tracks are gone. Are those replaceable?

5. The wall between the sink and the bathroom was not on a hinge to fold down. was the hinge a later design change, or is there something to be worried about here.

6. The wardrobe was also not attached to the hinge. He said it was because he didn't use it and felt claustrophobic in the bed with it installed. I couldn't tell how hard that would be to reattach.

I know this sounds like quite a few things, but most of them seem like minor issues (other than the seals). He did say that the batteries are shot, and the propane tanks are the old style, so will need to be replaced when they are empty. Tires have good tread on them. He is negotiable on price, so what do you think it is worth.

Thanks for any help. I have been trying to find a TM that I could afford that was not geographically undesireable (like located in NY). This is 45 min. away, and although it is a few years older than I was hoping, it is a good bit lower price than I was expecting.

Kevin
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Old 09-26-2012, 09:35 PM   #2
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this is the glide currently used (since at least 2007) for the curtains to close off the beds:

http://www.vintagetrailersupply.com/..._p/vts-259.htm

You can use this in place of the old style curtain glide tape:

http://www.vintagetrailersupply.com/..._p/vts-475.htm

or you can use this for the same thing as above:

http://www.vintagetrailersupply.com/..._p/vts-354.htm

I "think" the ceiling track in my camper looks like this...but it is closed up...I do know mine is sort of a bronze colored plastic. I know it's plastic because it cracked on one end. I would check to see the diameter of the track is before ordering so you will be certain the glides your order will fit correctly in the track you order:


http://www.shoprvparts.com/product/1...ong-white.html
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Old 09-26-2012, 10:08 PM   #3
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I am looking at a 3124king that has hail damage and is priced at $3K. It seems to be in decent shape, mainly requiring a good cleaning inside and out. The hail damage is cosmetic except for a hole in the A/C cover and one in the awning end cap. I have some questions about a few other issues that I noticed.

1. The seals between the beds and the shells are worn, and don't appear to be flexible enough to make a seal any more. Does anyone know the approximate cost to replace those seals, and probably the ones between the shells as well?

2. The shells went up and down pretty well, but seemed to wiggle and squirm a bit on the way. How hard is it to adjust the lift mechanism (is it DIY, or a dealer only process).

3. Does anyone know if the 1999 had wood in the shells? We are in Colorado, so I am not too concerned about rot, but would be good to know.

4. The curtains are all shot. Not a big deal to sew some more, but is it hard to get the tabs to attach them. Also, the bed end curtain tracks are gone. Are those replaceable?

5. The wall between the sink and the bathroom was not on a hinge to fold down. was the hinge a later design change, or is there something to be worried about here.

6. The wardrobe was also not attached to the hinge. He said it was because he didn't use it and felt claustrophobic in the bed with it installed. I couldn't tell how hard that would be to reattach.

I know this sounds like quite a few things, but most of them seem like minor issues (other than the seals). He did say that the batteries are shot, and the propane tanks are the old style, so will need to be replaced when they are empty. Tires have good tread on them. He is negotiable on price, so what do you think it is worth.

Thanks for any help. I have been trying to find a TM that I could afford that was not geographically undesireable (like located in NY). This is 45 min. away, and although it is a few years older than I was hoping, it is a good bit lower price than I was expecting.

Kevin
Kevin, I live in Fountain Co and just purchased a 2000 3124 King. Like you I have some cleaning and repair. The seal between the body halves I understand is called a bag seal. I have several feet to replace and thus called Trailmanor and was told they sell the seal with the foam rubber for$6. Per foot and you have to supply your own wood or other material attach strip.
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Old 09-27-2012, 07:41 AM   #4
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I am looking at a 3124king that has hail damage and is priced at $3K. It seems to be in decent shape, mainly requiring a good cleaning inside and out. The hail damage is cosmetic except for a hole in the A/C cover and one in the awning end cap. I have some questions about a few other issues that I noticed.

1. The seals between the beds and the shells are worn, and don't appear to be flexible enough to make a seal any more. Does anyone know the approximate cost to replace those seals, and probably the ones between the shells as well?

2. The shells went up and down pretty well, but seemed to wiggle and squirm a bit on the way. How hard is it to adjust the lift mechanism (is it DIY, or a dealer only process).

3. Does anyone know if the 1999 had wood in the shells? We are in Colorado, so I am not too concerned about rot, but would be good to know.

5. The wall between the sink and the bathroom was not on a hinge to fold down. was the hinge a later design change, or is there something to be worried about here.

6. The wardrobe was also not attached to the hinge. He said it was because he didn't use it and felt claustrophobic in the bed with it installed. I couldn't tell how hard that would be to reattach.

I know this sounds like quite a few things, but most of them seem like minor issues (other than the seals). He did say that the batteries are shot, and the propane tanks are the old style, so will need to be replaced when they are empty. Tires have good tread on them. He is negotiable on price, so what do you think it is worth.

Thanks for any help. I have been trying to find a TM that I could afford that was not geographically undesireable (like located in NY). This is 45 min. away, and although it is a few years older than I was hoping, it is a good bit lower price than I was expecting.

Kevin
2. The wiggle is probably normal for a TM that is 12 years old. Make sure it's not binding somewhere inside like curtains, shell overlap, etc. Adjustments can be made under the frame. There is a tutorial on the site accessed from the home page.

3. Yes, 1999 model years have wood in side walls.

5. There should be a hinge for that particular wall. It's a long one like piano bench style. I think I remember TM sells a repair kit for the hinge from previous issues through the years.

6. When I purchased my TM last year, the wardrobe was not mounted. The seller took it out for his convenience. I put it back in. The bathroom walls need to be down. There is a long guide strip below the foot of the bed which aligns with the strip on the wardrobe. There should be a wood screw on the far right end of the guide strip that needs to be removed to slide the wardrobe in. Takes two people to guide it along the length due to the weight and size of the wardrobe.

Does not matter how much tread is on the tires. They most likely are old and dry cracked. Be very careful. I had a blowout after 300 miles. Luckily, I was parked overnight on my trip home when it blew, so no damage to the fender well.
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Old 09-27-2012, 07:56 AM   #5
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Kevin,

As far as price, it appears to be fairly priced. A number of years ago, I bought a 1997 TM3326 for $6500. Sold it after three years for $8k. Made money.... Rare profit on any RV. Last year I bought a 2002 TM3124KB. The KB models are desirable to many due to the length wise sleeping arrangement with the KB. I paid $7500. It was in good condition, no leaks, all components and appliances were in working order. Awning was clean and functional. With the 1999 model your looking at, from what you know, is a decent value. Appears you've looked it over? Appliances are worth the asking price by themselves as long as they have been demonstrated by the seller as in working order.
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Old 10-03-2012, 01:56 PM   #6
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Thanks for the replies and the advice. I decided not to go for the trailer after talking to the dealer service person, and considering all of the other projects I currently have (addition on house, finishing basement). I will have to keep looking for one in better condition that I can afford.

This forum is a great resource, and I hope to be joining the TM family soon.
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