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04-15-2017, 10:17 AM
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Bill mentioned weighing everything on a CAT scale. At that point though, it's kinda too late for most people. I know I'm not in a position to run out and buy a bigger tow vehicle after I bought the TrailManor. I had to be sure I was 100% confident my existing vehicle could pull the camper BEFORE I bought the camper. Buying a truck plus a camper would've been a deal breaker.
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04-15-2017, 11:40 AM
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Location: Orlando
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Just a thought but with a heavy load the first thing that happens is the transmission unlocks and the engine goes into PE (power enrichment). Temperatures rise and mpg drops.
In that case it is better to manual shift to a lower gear that has less load so the trans can lockup and the engine stay out of PE.
My Jeep has a slapstick and is kinda fun in the mountains.
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04-15-2017, 02:38 PM
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Location: Bay Village, Ohio
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padget i have always kept my vehice out of overdrive ,, i keep it in drive , in a tacoma that is 4 i dont downshift any further ,,, do others downshift to low etc,,,,,does anyone tow in overdrive?
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04-15-2017, 02:43 PM
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TrailManor Master
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Location: Orlando
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Florida is mostly flat so I let the trans do the thinking but do monitor the throttle position. Above 50% it goes into PE, below it is in lockup.
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04-15-2017, 04:38 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Shane826
Bill mentioned weighing everything on a CAT scale. At that point though, it's kinda too late for most people. I know I'm not in a position to run out and buy a bigger tow vehicle after I bought the TrailManor. I had to be sure I was 100% confident my existing vehicle could pull the camper BEFORE I bought the camper.
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Shane -
I fully agree with your comment. Whenever possible, you want to be sure of your tow vehicle before you pull the trigger on a TM. However, in my post #15, I was responding specifically to Gwenne and Len (post #13), and to Campers R Us (post #14), both of whom have already bought a TM and are now wondering about the tow vehicle.
I think that at this point, they have two options. The first is to solicit the experience of others, realizing that the others may drive in different terrain, and may load their rig (both tow vehicle and TM) differently. Anecdotal evidence is good, and I always advise folks to seek it and be sure to understand what it means. The second option is to weigh their own rig, since they already own both the TV and the TM. This will give them some hard facts.
Neither approach will fix a problem, but both will at least make them aware if their situation is marginal, and can influence how they pack, how they drive, and where they drive. I guess that was my point when I suggested weighing.
In order to be 100% confident, as you suggest and as we all would like to be, a new owner probably needs to do what you and I have done - buy a tow vehicle with A LOT of margin.
Bill
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04-15-2017, 04:39 PM
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TrailManor Master
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: NE Ohio
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I often tow in overdrive, when in mountains no but in Ohio sure do, with no issues and better mileage
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05-21-2017, 10:37 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Maple City, Mi
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Highlander pulling our 3124
We are home after 6 weeks in the West......the Highlander did fine pulling our 3124. We had way too much stuff, so we were heavier than we will be next time. Len loaded carefully, always attempting to put our heaviest loads over the axle in the trailer and forward in the Highlander, and he checked tongue weight before we left. We went over many mountain passes - the highest was 10,200 altitude, and we did fine. We were going 45 on the longest, highest stretches, but so were the big trucks. On the lower grades we were able to go full speed. We down shifted on down grades with little actual use of our brakes. I worried, but Len thought things were fine. We got 13 to 14 mpg when climbing, and up to 36 mpg on the downgrades. On the run over the rockies from Steamboat to Fort Collins we averaged 21 MPG. Cruise control is a problem on anything but minor grades. The system abruptly upshifts skipping gears to maintain speed within a one mile range.
As for the upgrade to a 3124 - I LOVE it! We were totally comfortable for 6 weeks in it. The extra dresser, the longer, deep counter make a huge difference. The King bed is wonderful. I miss our booth, but the sofa with tables worked fine.
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05-21-2017, 06:58 PM
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TrailManor Master
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Jo-juh
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gwenne & Len
We are home after 6 weeks in the West......the Highlander did fine pulling our 3124. We had way too much stuff, so we were heavier than we will be next time. Len loaded carefully, always attempting to put our heaviest loads over the axle in the trailer and forward in the Highlander, and he checked tongue weight before we left. We went over many mountain passes - the highest was 10,200 altitude, and we did fine. We were going 45 on the longest, highest stretches, but so were the big trucks. On the lower grades we were able to go full speed. We down shifted on down grades with little actual use of our brakes. I worried, but Len thought things were fine. We got 13 to 14 mpg when climbing, and up to 36 mpg on the downgrades. On the run over the rockies from Steamboat to Fort Collins we averaged 21 MPG. Cruise control is a problem on anything but minor grades. The system abruptly upshifts skipping gears to maintain speed within a one mile range.
As for the upgrade to a 3124 - I LOVE it! We were totally comfortable for 6 weeks in it. The extra dresser, the longer, deep counter make a huge difference. The King bed is wonderful. I miss our booth, but the sofa with tables worked fine.
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Glad it's working for you.
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06-05-2017, 01:01 PM
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Member
Join Date: May 2017
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A Highlander can pull a 3124 even in a kilt
Seems you already have the answer but I thought I'd contribute anyway.
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06-05-2017, 10:11 PM
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TrailManor Master
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Orlando
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What was the tongue weight please ? Was this with or without a WDH ?
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