TrailManor Owner's Forum  

Go Back   TrailManor Owner's Forum > TrailManor Technical Discussions > Appliances
Register FAQ Members List Calendar

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 06-18-2011, 07:57 PM   #1
muz123
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 44
Default AC Unit Question

I just got a leak in our '05 3023 after a hard rain. After going on the roof to investigate I noticed that the hard plastic "shroud" that the AC Unit is mounted on has caulking all the way around it and about a 4-inch section was split along the edge probably due to flexing of the plastic. Also looked on the forum and noticed that the mounting screws may require tightening.

I couldn't help but wonder if the caulking around the edge of the plastic that the AC Unit is mounted is required. Could that be the cause of the leak? Already re-caulked the edge... Any advice?
muz123 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-19-2011, 04:41 AM   #2
commodor47
Site Sponsor
 
commodor47's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Blandford, MA
Posts: 1,045
Default

We had a similar leak and discovered the "mount gasket" had deteriorated and needed to be replaced; tightening the mounting screws you refer to did not stop the leak. I opted to have the mount gasket replaced (two years ago) at our TM dealer . . . no more leak . . .

Dick
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	ColemanAirCond0002b.JPG
Views:	79
Size:	137.8 KB
ID:	5993  
__________________
Dick & Jeri in Western MA
2003 2720 SL
2007 Ford Explorer Sport Trac Limited 4x4 - V8
Albums
commodor47 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-19-2011, 06:00 AM   #3
muz123
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 44
Default

Dick

Thanks, I'll take a look at it. I noticed that the AC Unit Gasket, that usually comes in contact with the roof, does not do that in my camper. Instead, there is much larger opening and the gasket comes in contact with a hard plastic that the AC Unit mounts on top of. Is this normal for all TMs? Should I caulk around the outside and inside the TM of this plastic piece?
muz123 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-19-2011, 06:54 AM   #4
commodor47
Site Sponsor
 
commodor47's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Blandford, MA
Posts: 1,045
Default

The sketch came with the documentation from the TM factory. As part of the documentation they included all installation and instruction manuals for the appliances/units installed in our TM. The attached thumbnail is a fairly large photo. Try opening the thumbnail, left click on the image, left click again on the image which should bring up the '+' cursor icon and left click on the image one more time. That should bring up the full size copy (8.5 x 11) and allow you to use the print function under the 'File' button of your browser. Let me know if that works . . . if not I can send you a larger copy via email.

Dick
__________________
Dick & Jeri in Western MA
2003 2720 SL
2007 Ford Explorer Sport Trac Limited 4x4 - V8
Albums
commodor47 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-19-2011, 06:57 AM   #5
muz123
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 44
Default

Found the picture in my old documentation! I noticed that the AC Unit Gasket, that usually comes in contact with the roof, does not do that in my camper. Instead, there is much larger opening and the gasket comes in contact with a hard plastic that the AC Unit mounts on top of. Is this normal for all TMs? Should I caulk around the outside and inside the TM of this plastic piece?
muz123 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-19-2011, 07:12 AM   #6
commodor47
Site Sponsor
 
commodor47's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Blandford, MA
Posts: 1,045
Default

I am trying to picture the structure you describe . . . It might be better to check the mounting bolt gasket indicating tab for correct positioning before attempting replacement of the mount gasket. My mount gasket and mounting bolts is visible from inside the TM by removing the ceiling grille, air filters, ceiling assembly, and duct collar (see attached thumbnail).

Dick
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	ColemanAirCond0001b.JPG
Views:	59
Size:	135.5 KB
ID:	5994  
__________________
Dick & Jeri in Western MA
2003 2720 SL
2007 Ford Explorer Sport Trac Limited 4x4 - V8
Albums
commodor47 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-19-2011, 07:18 AM   #7
commodor47
Site Sponsor
 
commodor47's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Blandford, MA
Posts: 1,045
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by muz123 View Post
Found the picture in my old documentation! I noticed that the AC Unit Gasket, that usually comes in contact with the roof, does not do that in my camper. Instead, there is much larger opening and the gasket comes in contact with a hard plastic that the AC Unit mounts on top of. Is this normal for all TMs? Should I caulk around the outside and inside the TM of this plastic piece?
In many installations a plastic spacer is used between the unit and the roof. This allows for level installation of the unit. Is what you describe a tapered plastic shim? (thicker towards the rear of the shell?).

Dick
__________________
Dick & Jeri in Western MA
2003 2720 SL
2007 Ford Explorer Sport Trac Limited 4x4 - V8
Albums
commodor47 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-19-2011, 08:58 AM   #8
ELM-JLM
TrailManor Master
 
ELM-JLM's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Largo, Florida
Posts: 330
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by muz123 View Post
I just got a leak in our '05 3023 after a hard rain. After going on the roof to investigate I noticed that the hard plastic "shroud" that the AC Unit is mounted on has caulking all the way around it and about a 4-inch section was split along the edge probably due to flexing of the plastic. Also looked on the forum and noticed that the mounting screws may require tightening.

I couldn't help but wonder if the caulking around the edge of the plastic that the AC Unit is mounted is required. Could that be the cause of the leak? Already re-caulked the edge... Any advice?
I am attaching a few pic's I took at the factory in April! I hope they give some insight!
__________________
Earl

08 2619 TM W/The Works, 15" wheels X 4 (2 spares),
2015 Ford F 150 Platinum

Sold to someone that loves travel and camping as much as we do!

Love the forum so always checking in!


[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
ELM-JLM is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-19-2011, 03:20 PM   #9
muz123
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 44
Default

Added pictures to show where someone had made a "dent" in the inside roof (and where water had leaked). I sealed the outside of the plastic piece that the AC sits on (see picture) (a little messy). I plan to seal the inside too to ensure no water gets in. Should I use eterna -bond on the outside too?
-Dave
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	TOP OF AC EXTERIOR UNIT 1.jpg
Views:	75
Size:	485.6 KB
ID:	5997   Click image for larger version

Name:	INTERIOR AC UNIT TM.jpg
Views:	79
Size:	614.4 KB
ID:	5998   Click image for larger version

Name:	INTERIOR FOUND WHERE LEAK IS!.jpg
Views:	80
Size:	934.7 KB
ID:	5999  
muz123 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-20-2011, 07:18 AM   #10
Bill
Site Team
 
Bill's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: The mountains of Scottsdale, AZ, and the beaches of Maine
Posts: 10,105
Default

Once the outside is properly sealed, I'm not sure that I would seal the inside. After all, if the outside is sealed, no water should get in, so sealing the inside is not needed. And if the outside is not properly sealed, then sealing the inside will just trap water and hide the problem - which can have much bigger consequences.

Just my thought.

Bill
__________________
2020 2720QS (aka 2720SL)
2014 Ford F-150 4WD 5.0L
Bill's Tech Stuff album
Bill is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
AC in the Rear Beach Boy Appliances 7 01-11-2011 07:07 PM
Water leaking from AC plmwright Appliances 9 08-27-2010 09:26 PM
electronic entertainment guitartom Electrical 9 05-15-2010 12:10 PM
prospective buyer questions on used unit Dan Erickson Prospective Owner Questions 4 02-14-2005 10:22 AM
Has anyone moved AC unit? bulin3023 General TrailManor Topics 9 08-05-2003 04:20 PM


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 06:24 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Copyright 2022 Trailmanor Owners Page.