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Old 10-01-2016, 01:04 PM   #1
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Default 250W on Rear Shell w/ MPPT

So I finally got my solar installed so here is my install info/instructions!

Parts List:

1x Renogy 250W Monocrystaline Panel but looks like it has been replaced with the Renogy 260W
1x EPSolar 2215BN MPPT Charge Controller
1x MT-50 Remote Meter
1x Battery Temp Sensor
1x 25' Network Cable (to connect monitor to controller)
1x 4-Pack Renogy Z-Brackets
1x 50' 10AWG MC4 Solar Cable
2x 30A Weatherproof Circuit Breaker
1x Renogy 8ft 10AWG Battery Tray Cables
1x Roll of 3M RP32 VHB Tape
1x Cordmate II Kit
1x Loctite Marine Adhesive Sealant

Thoughts:

The reason I decided to go with a single 250W panel vs. multiple 100W panels as the majority of others have done is purely cost (and slightly it was one less panel to install, 2 fewer connections to make...etc). Currently looks like the 250W panel is not being offered anymore, and the ones on Amazon are much more expensive. The 260W on Renogy's website is about $50 cheaper than 2 of their 100W panels (and you get 60 extra watts)! Next, my personality type is such that I hate spending money on something and then not getting the full benefit from it (i.e. MPPT vs PWM). With a PWM controller, it may have met my power needs for less money, but if I'm buying a 250W panel, I want to get the most out of it I can, even if it means spending a little bit more on a controller. The EPSolar Tracer series MPPT controllers got good reviews and were cheaper than other alternatives. The panel and the controller are the "biggest" components of the system and are what took the longest to decide on. Everything else is easy to pick up.

Installation:

First thing I did was mount the z-brackets to the panel. All the hardware was included with the brackets. Next I cleaned the rear shell and marked the spots on the roof where the z-brackets were going to be. I cleaned these spots with rubbing alcohol to get a nice clean surface. Due to the slight curvature of the rear shell I needed to bend the z-brackets slightly to get them to sit flush against the roof. I cleaned the bottom of the z-brackets with rubbing alcohol as well and then placed a strip of the 3M RP32 VHB tape on each of the brackets. I had someone help me lift the panel to the roof and placed it on some blocks of wood on either side of the panel so we could get it in the right position before placing the panel down. Once the panel was down I put some of the Loctite Marine sealant/adhesive around the edge of the brackets to provide a little extra strength and to help keep water/dirt away from the VHB tape.

Now that the panel was securely mounted to the roof I started working on routing the cables down the street side wall and down the lift arm as many others have done. I measured and cut the cordmate kit to conceal the wires. I routed it down one of the lift arms and drilled a hole in the steel plate to route the wires through. Then I ran the wires through the frame to the front of the TM. The 50' solar cable has a male and female MC4 connector installed, so you cut the cable in half to install (25' cable with male end and 25' cable with female end). 25' ended up being a little too short to make the run from the rear roof, down the side of the TM, through the frame to the front of the TM, so I had to solder some wire left over from the battery tray cable to extend the length.

I mounted the MPPT controller to the front box of the TM (outside). Since my batteries are mounted on the tongue of the trailer, this provides a short run from the controller to the batteries. I cleaned the front box with rubbing alcohol and put VHB tape around the back of the charge controller and mounted it. The controller is covered by the front shell when the TM is closed, and when open, the bed and shell keep it protected.

I made all the connections, and put one of the 30A breakers between the panel and the controller (to disconnect the solar from the system) and I used the other one as a battery disconnect on the + wire from the battery to the TM. I installed a 30A inline fuse (blade type) between the charge controller and battery which I can pull out if I want to disconnect the charge controller from the battery.

Finally I ran the 25' network cable from the charge controller, under the TM, halfway up the frame and entered the TM through the hole in the floor that contained the freshwater drain hose. This put the cable inside the TM under the street side dinette bench. I then routed it through the wall into the refrigerator compartment (in the back), then through the other wall to the area under the sink. I mounted the remote monitor next to the control panel and thermostat. I connected the network cable to the monitor and powered the system up to make sure everything worked.

First trip to Sequoia our site was pretty well shaded, but the solar still seemed to work pretty well. I need to change some settings on the charge controller to match my battery setup, but I seemed to go from 12.4V (~75% capacity) in the morning (after running heater all night) and the 2-3 hours of sun we would get got me back up to 12.9V (100%).

Photos of the install below.

A big thank you to all on the forum who answered my questions and who have provided information on their installs!
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Old 10-01-2016, 08:20 PM   #2
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Old 10-13-2016, 09:01 AM   #3
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Looks good.....I'll get this link added to the owners solar install thread some time in the next week. We are camped at Big Oak along the Tellico River in TN with no internet. Currently in Murphy, NC for supplies.
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Old 10-31-2018, 01:56 PM   #4
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Hey Brad, I think we met you and your wife at Rock Creek by Mammoth? Paxton and Lisa here. Anyway we've got a 2720 too and are finally going to add solar. Our plan is to follow what you did. Any issues/regrets as far as how things were placed or otherwise?

We also plan on an inverter, is that in the cards for you? We are trying to figure out the best place to put the inverter with limited space.
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Old 11-01-2018, 07:52 AM   #5
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Hey Paxton! How are things?

No regrets and no major issues. The only minor "issue" I've had is with the cordmate double sided tape not really lasting. First set I put on the top and side started pealing (probably from UV degradation) pretty quickly. I fixed that by replacing it and then running a bead of I think marine grade adhesive on both sides (hold it better and protect the double sided foam tape. Unfortunately I didn't do the same thing with the cordmate running down the back side of the lift arm and that it starting to peel off also. I secured that temporarily with zip ties.

Electrically thought everything has been working great! Don't have an inverter and have no immediate plans to add one but have thought about it.

If you have any questions let me know! Welcome to the forum! I'd suggest becoming a member for $12 after your trial runs out. Well worth it.
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Old 11-01-2018, 02:08 PM   #6
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I screwed the cordmate down at each end with short, self-tapping screws. Perhaps this took enough stress off of it that the adhesive hasn't been a problem.
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Hey Brad, doing great! We just had the rig out to Serrano Campground at Big Bear for an extended weekend.

I'm buying my stuff today from Renogy. We are going to try an LG 320 watt panel in what appear to be similar dimensions, hopefully it fits well.
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Hi Brad, I am thinking about buying the 30 ft solar cables below so I don't have to solder wires for the run from panel to controller. By my math you ended up just 1-2 feet short with the 25 ft cables?

https://www.amazon.com/Renogy-Adapto...r%2Bcable&th=1


BTW sorry for getting back to you so late in my first reply, my notification emails went to my spam inbox.
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That's correct. But depending on how you run it I would maybe go with the 40' pair for $10 more. Will give you a little bit more room for error.
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Brad,

Do you think you could have put a panel on there that is another inch wider? I think your panel is 39 inches wide (front to back on the TM), and I’m looking at one that is 40 inches wide. It looks like there’s enough room from your picture, and also from measuring my TM, but it would be close, particularly as the roof slopes down more as it gets to the edge.

It seems most panels these days — the good ones anyway — are in the 39-41 inch width range, and most are 40-41 inches. But the output capacity is going way up for the size. And inch wider and an inch longer ups the output now to around 360/370 watts, and still around 40-43 pounds, similar to the older 250-watt panels. Incredible.

And just to update — would you do anything differently now that it’s been installed a few more years? Tape still holding up well?

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