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11-16-2014, 07:07 AM
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Hitch
My TV is an F150 Supercrew equipped with brake controller. I just connect and go.
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11-16-2014, 10:44 AM
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Site Team
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: The mountains of Scottsdale, AZ, and the beaches of Maine
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Just as an FYI, my TV is a 2014 F-150 extended cab regular (6 1/2 foot) bed. It needs the WDH. Without it, the rear end drops too much when we put the TM coupler onto onto the hitch ball.
Love that built-in brake controller. And the tow/haul mode is really nice, too.
Bill
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11-16-2014, 11:53 AM
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TrailManor Master
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Orlando
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A lot has to do with the lever arm (distance from the centerline of the rear axle to the hitch ball).
My TV LA is 38" and it drops an inch. Measured tongue weight is 470 lbs.
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11-16-2014, 01:50 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: Bossier City, LA
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WD Hitch Compatibility
I just ordered a Reese Strait-Line Weight Distribution Hitch (RP66082) for use with my 2006 Toyota Tacoma TRD Sport 4x4 with double cab, 6-foot (long) bed, and factory towing package. I'm in the market for a 27ft.+ Trailmanor, with a 2720QB being the most likely candidate. Does anyone else use this hitch, and are there any problems with the mounting brackets interfering with the propane tank mounts or anything else on the trailer tongue? What are your thoughts on using the sway control, especially with light truck tow vehicles? Thanks!
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11-16-2014, 06:38 PM
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TrailManor Master
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: GA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by usafabronco
I just ordered a Reese Strait-Line Weight Distribution Hitch (RP66082) for use with my 2006 Toyota Tacoma TRD Sport 4x4 with double cab, 6-foot (long) bed, and factory towing package. I'm in the market for a 27ft.+ Trailmanor, with a 2720QB being the most likely candidate. Does anyone else use this hitch, and are there any problems with the mounting brackets interfering with the propane tank mounts or anything else on the trailer tongue? What are your thoughts on using the sway control, especially with light truck tow vehicles? Thanks!
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I can't speak specifically for that model WDH, but I doubt anything will interfere because the propane tanks are all mounted well inside the A frame.
As far as the Tacoma, we are also using an 07 Sport except with the short bed and no 4WD. The WDH will help greatly because the Trailmanor models all seem to have an unusually high tongue weight vs. total weight because of the long distance from trailer axle to tongue.
But the plus side to that is I doubt you will have any sway problems at all with most of the weight up front of the trailer axle. I know our Tacoma pulls our 3023 model fine without the least hint of sway, using only the WDH without sway control.
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11-17-2014, 04:54 AM
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TrailManor Master
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Big Bend area, Florida
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Originally Posted by Padgett
A lot has to do with the lever arm (distance from the centerline of the rear axle to the hitch ball).
My TV LA is 38" and it drops an inch. Measured tongue weight is 470 lbs.
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Ours drops 2 inches but then on the Ram the LA is longer then the GC. Our GC works great to move the TM in the tight quarters of the yard. Although I haven't measured it, the GC doesn't drop as much as the Ram.
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11-17-2014, 07:36 AM
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TrailManor Master
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: GA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Padgett
A lot has to do with the lever arm (distance from the centerline of the rear axle to the hitch ball).
My TV LA is 38" and it drops an inch. Measured tongue weight is 470 lbs.
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That's true. I also note that the huge honking hitch attachment we have (included with the TM purchase) must weigh 30-40 lbs according to my grunt meter. Not counting the two heavy bars. Plus it adds several more inches distance out to the hitch ball. Kind of makes you wonder what tradeoffs are being made. And wonder how close we are to the point that air bags ARE indeed good enough without causing excessive strain on the rear axle.
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11-17-2014, 08:10 AM
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TrailManor Master
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Orlando
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Have been thinking about a web page with all of the parameters (most of which I considered when choosing my TV). For example you not only want the LA (hitch ball to axle) to be short, you also want the ratio of WB to LA to be at least 3:1.
The problem is that there are a lot of PBIs (partly baked ideas) out there, some of which are good and others that may have a basis in fact, the real meaning has been lost like tire plies.
Point I am trying to make is that you need to consider the entire towing system, end to end and side to side (on a TM everything heavy that is not centered is on the street side even where they had a choice.
Consider my 2720Sl, probably the most common TM of all time. Why is the battery (or batteries in some cases) on the street side ? That is 70 or 140 lbs (2 T-105s or my Grp 29 and Generator) that could be on the curb side with a few feet more wire.
Instead batteries, water tanks (fresh and gray), lav, tub, toilet & fridge is all on the street side & mostly right against the wall. No wonder I have an inch less tire clearance on the street than the curb side.
Which also makes me wonder if most tire failures are on the street side. People talk a lot about failures taking out the dump plumbing and that is street side.
Wonder where I could get a 2500lb strain gauge...
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11-17-2014, 11:30 AM
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TrailManor Master
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Somerset, OH
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I'm agree with your thought about the weight. But the curb side gets more abuse because there is more road trash, more holes and if i'm going to cut a corner short it's almost always on the curb side. I have had more flats on campers on the curb side. 4 out of 5 campers I have owned, the street side was the heavy side.
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12-07-2014, 06:37 AM
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TrailManor Master
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Williamsburg, VA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Padgett
Have been thinking about a web page with all of the parameters (most of which I considered when choosing my TV). For example you not only want the LA (hitch ball to axle) to be short, you also want the ratio of WB to LA to be at least 3:1.
The problem is that there are a lot of PBIs (partly baked ideas) out there, some of which are good and others that may have a basis in fact, the real meaning has been lost like tire plies.
Point I am trying to make is that you need to consider the entire towing system, end to end and side to side (on a TM everything heavy that is not centered is on the street side even where they had a choice.
Consider my 2720Sl, probably the most common TM of all time. Why is the battery (or batteries in some cases) on the street side ? That is 70 or 140 lbs (2 T-105s or my Grp 29 and Generator) that could be on the curb side with a few feet more wire.
Instead batteries, water tanks (fresh and gray), lav, tub, toilet & fridge is all on the street side & mostly right against the wall. No wonder I have an inch less tire clearance on the street than the curb side.
Which also makes me wonder if most tire failures are on the street side. People talk a lot about failures taking out the dump plumbing and that is street side.
Wonder where I could get a 2500lb strain gauge...
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I've wondered myself about how much side to side difference I have. For example, you didn't mention, ahem, the difference between the driver and the passenger.
I try to travel with as little as possible for fresh water, gray water, and the toilet, but I usually operate with a full water heater because setup is quicker. The batteries do have a left side bias, but they're only about a foot from the centerline in my trailer.
A visit to the Cat scale is a visit to reality. Just weigh all 3 axles once, and then again with only one side on the scale segments.
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