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12-06-2001, 11:28 PM
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The 'elegant' lamps in the front of the trailer
Our lamps have worked sporadically from the beginning and steadily gotten worse. They really don't work at all anymore, unless you hold the bulb down with your hand. The white tube going from the bulb to the base is very loose and the lamps just seem really cheap. Has anyone else had this problem?
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12-07-2001, 12:05 AM
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Re: The 'elegant' lamps in the front of the traile
Probably every TrailManor owner has had problems with these lamps. As fancy as they are, they are a problem that the factory knows about very well. I have even considered replacing them with something more sturdy. The dealer in Ohio was very nice and responded to our complaint by immediately and without question, replaced them. We still bow on knee to them before turning them on. Some of the problem is derived from the lead contact on the base of the bulb. The vibrations caused from the roads and highways smashes these contacts. I touched a bit of solder on a couple contacts, filed it down so it wasn't too thick to "screw" into the socket and voilla, it worked. In fact, even though we hold our breath each time we turn them on, they are still working. We also changed our clock. My arms are not long enough, even when standing on the tongue, to reach through one of the storage doors and then replace the batteries or change the time. We were traveling through time zones with warp speed so that almost each day we needed to change the time. We went to Walmart and bought a wooden clock. The grain and color match the trailer's panneling to a "T". I installed a short piano hinge to the back left side and then attached all to the area that the original clock set. To service the clock, we now jus swing the clock open like a door and do our thing. To keep the clock latched and prevents swinging open, we stuck matching pieces of velcro, one to the clock and one to the cabinet. I personally didn't like the looks of the original clock anyway. Just like the troublesome lights, I would go for something less sissy. (in fact I refer to the lights as my "sissy lights". Anyway, the new clock looks like it belongs there and not in some cheap dance hall.
Hal
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12-07-2001, 12:51 AM
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Re: The 'elegant' lamps in the front of the traile
We haven't had that problem with our lamps, just as soon as we realized there was a second switch to the lamps in the forward vent opening. They don't put out a great deal of light, however, so I think they're really better for atmosphere in one of the slideout units than in units with beds.
We have had problems with the clock, because of the jostling on the road. Since my arms are pretty long, I have no difficulty in re-setting the clock once we arrive in new locations, and I actually like its look.
I appreciate the info about how we might ensure that the clock is going well, with the soldering, etc.
F. J. & Ellen
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12-07-2001, 02:32 AM
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Re: The 'elegant' lamps in the front of the traile
The elegant lights and the guage on the toilet have never worked from day one for us. If I shake the light it will work until someone closes the door!
I replaced the overhead tail light bulb type light in the living room of our slide out with a large size 2 tube ThinLite which provides excellent illumination. TM has the same light in the bathroom and I have never been able to figure out why they would put an expensive, energy efficient light in an area where it will get the least use?
We also have the smaller size ThinLites over the stove & sink and for reading in the chair I made a 12v reading light from an old high intensity light (remember those?). They have a 12v transformer in the base and use an automotive 12v tail light bulb. I bypassed the transformer and replaced the 110v plug with a 12v plug and then installed a 12v socket on the counter wall next to the chair. These lights are not available in stores any more having been replaced by cheaply built and dangerous halogen lights from overseas. I found one in an old lamp shop but thrift stores might occasionally have them. My wife likes the little reading light so much she wants me to make another one but I have been unable to find another high intensity lamp. :'(
Bruce Martin
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12-07-2001, 02:38 AM
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Re: The 'elegant' lamps in the front of the traile
My guess on the bathroom light is, fluorescent lights are often used by mirrors because they give a more natural light for applying makeup and stuff like that. 8)
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12-07-2001, 06:42 AM
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Re: The 'elegant' lamps in the front of the traile
Paul, first try putting a drop of solder on the bulb contacts. Also if you are VEEEERRRY carefull, you can lift the contacts inside the socket. Be sure the lights are not turned on or you might blow a fuse if your metal tool comes into contact the other contact. Please realize you are also stretching your luck as the contacts in the bases are very brittle. I don't know how difficult it would be to replace the electrical in the base. Maybe that is the answer...... just replace the socket with a better one.
Hal
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12-07-2001, 10:26 AM
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Re: The 'elegant' lamps in the front of the traile
I think these lamps aren't reliable because the little hoakey shade is supported directly by the bulb, so the bulb's contact in its socket takes a beating from the shade's mass and vibration. It's always a challenge to turn all the rotary switches to find the combination where something hopefully lights up.
This summer we just about took care of these babies when we closed our 2720 with the front bed just a few inches from not being fully slid in. The shades got a bit crumpled but the lamps still worked(?). We learned that the bed should be pushed in from outside; not pulled in from the inside.
I think this thread has motivated me to explore alternative lighting to replace these. thanks.
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12-08-2001, 01:17 AM
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Re: The 'elegant' lamps in the front of the traile
Of course, I've had trouble with those lamps as well. I replaced them. I found some similar lamps of better construction, at a local RV dealer's annual closeout sale. They work well, but there is an issue. The shades are not supported by the bulb, but are connected via a screw on brass finial. The shades are slightly larger. There's the "rub". I must take the shades off anytime I fold the trailer up for travel. This is not a problem for me, but I'm mentioning it for those of you that are thinking of replacing the fixtures.
I believe there is a reason TrailManor decided to go with the units they did, that being clearance. Have you noticed, most of the time when you first open up your TM the shades need to be adjusted. They are hitting the end of the trailer when it is folded up. Aside from the quality issues mentioned in the previous discussion, I believe this factor leads to the failure of the contacts for the bulbs.
If the factory has found an adequate replacement, that stays within the confines of limited clearance the slight outward slope the front shell provides, I would consider replacing the lamps once again. However, the original shades are the smallest ones I've seen. Perhaps they are going with something completely different.
happy trails...........George
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12-08-2001, 02:30 AM
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Re: The 'elegant' lamps in the front of the traile
If anyone finds a good fix for this problem, please post it. I think the lamps are well positioned for reading in bed (the light over the bed shines in my eyes when lying down), but inevitably just as I get settled...Darkness.
I've considered replacing the candelabra style lights with a small flat light, similar to the overhead lights, but haven't spent much time looking.
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