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Old 07-06-2011, 07:28 PM   #21
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Default Blowout and Plumbing Protection

Since previous blowouts of my 14” tires left dents and black marks on the underbelly of our ‘97 TM 3023 mighty close to the plumbing, I did the following to protect the plumbing:
- purchased one ½ inch rubber mud flap (24” X 30”) for $10.85 from Ryder Fleet Products.com (JKC 2430 HD)
- cut the mud flap to make two 12 x 30 inch flaps, then cut again horizontally creating 12 X 15 sections. I used a jigsaw with a fine edge blade similar to that of a hacksaw. Then I used 3M glue to fasten the two sections together.
- Bolted the now 1” solid yet flexible flaps to the outrigger part of frame using 2” stainless steel bolts and self-locking nuts. I hope this will protect the plumbing and underside of TM.
I also use a new Tire Pressure and Temp Monitoring System bought from Truck System Technologies Inc. for peace of mind. I keep my 15” 8 ply Maxxis tires inflated at 62 lbs psi when cold. On a recent trip through the broiling South the highest tire pressure read 72 lbs. and the temp went as high as 114 F. I do not know what the danger zone is and would love to have this question answered.
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Old 06-14-2014, 04:03 PM   #22
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angerlo,

Thanks for sharing your mud flap solution to protect your plumbing. I am going to give your idea a shot on my TM2619. I ordered JCK 2436HD from Ryder (http://www.ryderfleetproducts.com/ja...6-p-jkc-2436hd). That will give me 12"W x 18"L x 1" Thick mud flaps. Will post pictures when the project is finished.

How are your mud flaps holding out? Any updates?
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Old 06-14-2014, 04:15 PM   #23
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You might also want to review plumbing cages. Some members in the past had less than satisfactory results when protecting plumbing with flaps

http://www.trailmanorowners.com/foru...=Plumbing+cage
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Old 06-14-2014, 04:28 PM   #24
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MisterP,

I previously looked at that thread too. While cages are the better solution (yours looks great by the way) than mud flaps, constructing one is beyond my ability, tools, and what I have time for right now (even to hire out). I really like angerlo's idea of gluing two 1/2" thick mud flaps together to have 1" thickness for better results. And I may add to angerlo's idea and sandwich a piece of metal between them. I'll make that decision after I get the mud flaps and look them over. Even if I decide to build a cage later, having mud flaps installed in addition to the cage is just one more layer of protection for the plumbing as well as the mud, dirt, and stones. Perhaps the mud flaps is just phase one for me. It's better than nothing.
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Old 06-14-2014, 04:35 PM   #25
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Protection is good but the bottom should be within 1/4" of the bottom of the pipe and rounded on both ends as a skid should you lose a tire or drop it into a hole. Idealy it should be able to support the side of the TM.

If going to add a belly pan, might as well make it a skid plate as well.
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Old 06-15-2014, 05:13 AM   #26
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Default Adding Steel Plates to Mud Flaps

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Thanks for your post. My mud flaps have not been tested by any blow outs. I did add steel plates later. I purchased one 8 X 24" (16 gauge) plate of steel at Tractor Supply Co., cut it in half to make each section 8" long, painted them with a primer and black Rustoleum. Then I attached the plates using the existing bolts. Then later I added two more plates of the same material (22 gauge) steel plates on the plumbing side of TM to give added protection to that mud flap. Three plates total on plumbing side!
The plates are not only fastened at the top but bolted to mud flaps with three through all layers at lower edge of plates. This keeps the glued sections of mud flaps in place and still allows some flexibility for the four inches of rubber at the lower end. The bottom of the flaps are about 2" above the pavement. I hope it will never get tested.
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Old 06-15-2014, 07:18 AM   #27
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Hopefully, with those Maxxis tires they never will get tested!
http://www.trailmanorowners.com/foru...ad.php?t=11083

Do you have any pictures of your modified mud flaps that you can post?
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Old 06-16-2014, 01:33 PM   #28
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Default Pictures of Reenforced Mudflaps

Below are a couple of pictures of my mudflaps which I reenforced with steel plates at a later date. (See "Blow Out and Damage Prevention") under Tires, Tires, Tires. I attached the steel plates with 1/4" by 2" long stainless steel hex bolts, 1/4" self lock nuts and appropriate size washers. I tried to place the head of most bolts on the outside of the TM outrigger part of frame.
In the pix you can see that the steel plates are 12" wide, as wide as flaps. They extend 8" downward and are attached as high as possible. The 15" long flaps are not attatached as high. Notice also that the TM is now on jacks thereby raising the flaps a little more off the ground and causing the wheel to hang lower.
The picture with part of the jack showing is of the plumbing side. The other picture shows the door side.
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Old 06-16-2014, 03:31 PM   #29
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I started out with mud flaps but after someone had some bad luck with theirs I went to Home Depot and put something together I could do without welding. Pics and info. are in my albums. I also have a tire pressure monitor and hope I never find out if my cage provides enough protection.
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Old 06-19-2014, 07:48 AM   #30
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You may want to read these old posts on this subject.
http://www.trailmanorowners.com/foru...ight=speckul8r
http://www.trailmanorowners.com/foru...plumbing+cages
http://www.trailmanorowners.com/foru...ight=speckul8r
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