New Trailmanor Cassette Toilet

muz123 · 04-24-2021, 11:54 AM

Someone must have already started a thread on this but could not find it. Was just poking around a dealer's new TMs. They are getting up there in price but also noticed there is a cassette toilet option. Does anyone know anything about this toilet as I need to replace the 12V pump motor in my Thetford recirculating toilet. Was wondering if one needs to manually pull out the cassette to empty.
Thanks,
muz

**Bill** · 04-24-2021, 12:38 PM

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[I] noticed there is a cassette toilet option....Was wondering if one needs to manually pull out the cassette to empty.

I don't have one, but I think that's the definition of a cassette toilet - the waste collects in a small portable tank (the cassette) that is built into the toilet. When the cassette is full, you remove the it from the toilet and hand-carry it to a place where you can dump it. In the pictures I have seen, the cassette usually looks like a rectangular box, which can be closed watertight, and then carried using a handle on one side or end.

Do you happen to know the make/model of TM's optional cassette toilet? If not, a quick phone call would be in order. At the same time, you could ask if the cassette is removed from outside the trailer, through an opening in the trailer wall - or removed directly from the toilet base, inside the TM, and carried through the TM and out the door.

Bill

muz123 · 04-24-2021, 12:48 PM

It did not say the manufacturer or model of the cassette toilet. Thought it interesting that they even offered it. Was curious if it was able to be emptied from outside.

**Bill** · 04-24-2021, 12:58 PM

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Was curious if it was able to be emptied from outside.

You mean without removing it from the toilet? Like through a hose? I doubt it, but you need to know the make/model of the toilet before you can be sure. This is a new option for TM, so there isn't much member experience.

Bill

Shane826 · 04-24-2021, 01:23 PM

The cassette toilet used by TM has a door through the outside wall of the bathroom that you remove the cassette through. This is key so you don’t have to carry the poop tank through the camper. Then it has a handle that extends so you can roll it like luggage to the dump station or bathroom. No it does not dump through the plumbing underneath. TM started using this because the 2518 has the axle directly under the toilet, so there is no room for the dump plumbing. They then figured why not offer it as an option on all the campers? I’m not sure the make or model name but here’s a video of (I think) the same toilet...

https://youtu.be/HLYHu1cmlTA

**Kidkraz** · 04-24-2021, 02:48 PM

I converted my TM to a cassette toilet a few years back. As Shane says, there's an outside door, you pop open and pull out the cassette. Mine holds about 4.5 gallons, so you may need to dump it sooner than the Electra Magic one. I bought a spare cassette. On the last day, just before closing, I pull the used tank and put the cleaned tank and close up the camper. If I can't dump the tank at the camp ground, I take it home and dump it inside one of the bathrooms toilets. I then flush it a couple of times, till no debris comes out.
I have several pictures under my albums of the newer cassette, your are free to look at. The new tanks have blue caps, verse the older models that had an orange cap. The one learning curve for me was the flush blade has got to be closed before you can pull the cassette out. The current version is the C223.

muz123 · 04-24-2021, 04:48 PM

Thanks for the info!

**Bill** · 04-24-2021, 06:14 PM

Kidkraz -

That's a nice looking installation! In the third picture in your album, there is a nice paper template fastened to the wall. Did this template come with the new toilet, or did you have to make it yourself? Did you have any trouble getting it into the proper position, both left-right and up-down?

Bill

**Kidkraz** · 04-24-2021, 09:02 PM

Bill,

Installing the C200 was a bit of a fiasco. The C200 didn't come with a templet.
The US Thetford division didn't have a copy to send me, so the European folks sent me a copy. The C223 did come with a templet, but I didn't have to use it.
The C223 toilet wall cover is just a bit smaller/narrow than the C200. I don't remember if I had to move the wall bracket down or not. The plumbing and electrical connection were mostly a swap out. I did refine my electrical and plumbing connections with the new toilet. Centering wasn't that hard, I taped the wall, then placed the toilet frame against the wall and used white grease pencil to outlined it. Which you can see somewhat in the pic. That enabled me to center the templet correctly for my cut.
If someone converts to a cassette, use a very fine jig saw blade and go slow on your cut. You'll be reusing the outer skin and foam when you install the access door. Orientation of the skin is another important thing. I placed mine upside down and had to peel it off the foam; which was sealed to the foam and reinstall it. Which made it very messy.

**Larryjb** · 04-29-2021, 12:07 PM

I'm sure you're already aware, but just in case...

if you have a cassette toilet, you can't use traditional campsite hookups. We do use hookups quite a bit and makes emptying a recirculating toilet easy. If I had bought a TM with a cassette, I would probably convert it to recirculating just so I could have hookups.

If smell is the issue and reason for converting to cassette, consider this thread:
https://www.trailmanorowners.com/for...ad.php?t=19938