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Old 08-26-2010, 04:09 AM   #31
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Tom's right about his TM- The 3023 and 3124 models have come with 15" tires, 5000lb axles for many, many years- maybe going all the way back to when they were first invented. It's the little ones (2619, 2720) and the 2-axle 3326 which used to be built with 14" tires on the 3500lb Torflex.
I don't know what you consider "many" years, but my '99 3023 definitely had and still has 14" tires.


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But .... I have another bit for Tom to consider, too:

Whether or not it is "easy" to order and install lift kits varies, according to the model year of your TM. If the axle is bolted to the frame, then it's easy- take the bolts off, put in the lift kit bracket, and then bolt it all back together again per lift kit instructions. But, in many model years, including mine, TM was welding the Torflex to the Frame. Stronger, but you need to cut the weld to take it apart for upgrade. (I therefore ordered my 2619 built with lift kit and 5000lb axle at the factory; it's much harder to add afterwards.)

If your 3023 is welded, then you might think about whether you can just re-cut both wheel wells to allow more room for the current "scrapes the front of the well" tire positioning. (I don't know the clearance from wheel well front edge to the water heater, or fridge, or plumbing stuff, or stove, on your 3023. But it's worth a look.) If you see that adding lift requires the axle to be cut loose, and you choose to go this route instead -- then it's also a good opportunity to replace the plastic wheel well liner with more protective sheet metal, too.
My '99 3023 is bolted.
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Old 08-26-2010, 08:48 AM   #32
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If your 3023 is welded, then you might think about whether you can just re-cut both wheel wells to allow more room for the current "scrapes the front of the well" tire positioning.
If the axle is welded to the frame, it's not a hard job to cut through the weld with a 4" angle grinder and a steel cutting wheel. If there are not holes in the axle and body (that line-up perfectly), you should drill your holes before cutting the weld.

There are a lot more benefits to the higher frame than just tire clearance. The holding tank hoses fit much easier, more ground clearance for diveways, easier to put stuff under the camper (including your body, if need-be) etc.
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Old 08-31-2010, 05:25 PM   #33
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If the axle is welded to the frame, it's not a hard job to cut through the weld with a 4" angle grinder and a steel cutting wheel. If there are not holes in the axle and body (that line-up perfectly), you should drill your holes before cutting the weld.
DUH! If I wasn't a pyromaniac, looking for any excuse to fire up the acetylene torch, I might have eventually thought of that. Your way is obviously the right idea, thanks for addressing my "too-scary" post!
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I don't know what you consider "many" years, but my '99 3023 definitely had and still has 14" tires.
I didn't "look back" before 2005 (for which I have the TM catalog). Per my post, going back to "since they were invented" was pure SWAG -- and my thanks to you, for fixing my bad guess!
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