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01-07-2008, 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by mtnguy
Bill, thanks for seeing that some of my advice to JOEALAN might have caused him problems if he did what I suggested. I am always appreciative of others on this forum with more knowledge commenting on some of my misinformation.
FYI, the 2003s, at least the 2720s made before March, did not have accesible when closed power cords.
Chap
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Thank you Chap for all your help. Look like I'll take Bill's advance and buy a smart charger and connect to the Bargman (Learn something new today, name of pig tail) connector. It seems to be the best way to go, at least for us (meaning me) amateurs.
Joe
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09-28-2008, 09:15 PM
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Hydrogen gas
Anyone have any problems with hydrogen gas when charging with the camper closed?
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01-07-2008, 01:16 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2003
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mtnguy
Bill, thanks for seeing that some of my advice to JOEALAN might have caused him problems if he did what I suggested. I am always appreciative of others on this forum with more knowledge commenting on some of my misinformation.
Chap
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Chap - your info was good - don't feel a need to apologize for any of it. You described connecting AC so you could pre-cool the refrig for 24 hours before leaving on a trip, and that's a different question from connecting AC so you can put the charger on the battery for a long term.
Not everyone is aware of the shortcomings of that particular converter, and that's what we're here for. As RockyMtnRay used to describe it, one function of a moderator is to be a kind of corporate memory.
Bill
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01-07-2008, 01:00 PM
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Joe -
Here's a kinda dopey question. Where is the battery located on your 2619? If it is on the tongue, you can simply use clamps directly on the battery posts - no need to fiddle with the Bargman.
On the other hand, if it is inside somewhere and you want to get a little more elaborate, you could permanently mount the Guest charger near the battery, and permanently wire the charger's output to the battery. Now bring the charger's AC power plug out to someplace where you can get at it when the TM is closed.
On my 2002 2720SL, the battery was mounted in the rear outside compartment. I screwed the smart charger to the compartment wall, wired it to the battery, then drilled a hole in the compartment floor and dropped the charger's AC power cord down into the bumper compartment. Since the bumper compartment cover can be removed even when the TM is closed, I could simply remove the cover and plug the charger's cord into an extension cord.
A bit more of a pain to install, but from then on, really easy to use. You can kind of see it (item 7) over on the right in
http://www.trailmanorowners.com/foru...4771#post14771
Bill
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01-07-2008, 02:59 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill
Joe -
Here's a kinda dopey question. Where is the battery located on your 2619? If it is on the tongue, you can simply use clamps directly on the battery posts - no need to fiddle with the Bargman.
On the other hand, if it is inside somewhere and you want to get a little more elaborate, you could permanently mount the Guest charger near the battery, and permanently wire the charger's output to the battery. Now bring the charger's AC power plug out to someplace where you can get at it when the TM is closed.
On my 2002 2720SL, the battery was mounted in the rear outside compartment. I screwed the smart charger to the compartment wall, wired it to the battery, then drilled a hole in the compartment floor and dropped the charger's AC power cord down into the bumper compartment. Since the bumper compartment cover can be removed even when the TM is closed, I could simply remove the cover and plug the charger's cord into an extension cord.
A bit more of a pain to install, but from then on, really easy to use. You can kind of see it (item 7) over on the right in
http://www.trailmanorowners.com/foru...4771#post14771
Bill
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Dopey? I'm the one who is feeling dopey. Never been mechanically incline or electric wise. Really looking for a simple solution.
My one and only battery is located on the tongue.
Bill thanks for all of your help.
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01-07-2008, 06:52 PM
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My '03 2720 also doesn't have the accessible cord. So Im' wondering when I camp with hookups for a week, is my converter overcharging the batteries all week? That doesn't sound very smart.
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01-08-2008, 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by larsdennert
My '03 2720 also doesn't have the accessible cord. So Im' wondering when I camp with hookups for a week, is my converter overcharging the batteries all week? That doesn't sound very smart.
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lardennert, you beat me to the question. I had thought about PMn Bill for his ideas on the 6632 converters, then thought I would just post the question for all to see just in case others have that model.
Thanks Bill,
Chap
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01-07-2008, 08:42 PM
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Using a 6300-series charger, charging for a week won't hurt it, especially if you are using the electrical system, which tends to keep the voltage stable. The problem with the 6300 series charger is that although it doesn't charge very hard, it never quits. If you leave it for a month without a load to stabilize the battery, you may come back to an overcharged or dry battery.
A garage-type charger will be much worse. I really don't recommend those for any more than a few hours at a time.
Bill
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02-20-2008, 06:51 PM
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I took Bill's advice and bought a Guest trickle charger for my 2720SL. Since my batteries are in the back compartment, I routed some new wires for the charger directly from the battery down through the floor and into the bumper compartment and then into a small tuperware container. Once in the container, I terminated them with a a car alternator connector, and soldered the mating connector to the battery charger.
Now when I want to charge the batteries and the unit is closed, I just pop open the bumper compartment, take the lid off the tuperware container, and hook up the charger.
BTW, the best deal by far on a pretty decent Guest charger was from a company I've never heard of: BriJo Marine....$85 + free ground shipping (or $6 for 2-day air) for the Guest 16061, which is a 6 amp/12v 1-bank charger. Talked with the guy on the phone, and it was here 2 days later.
There are different settings on the charger for acid, gel, and AGM, and it has an LED indicator to tell you which of the 3-stages of the charging process it's in (bulb, absorption, or float). Very easy to use...been very pleased.
BriJo's link is here: http://www.brijoinc.com/marine/index...product_id=490
Dave
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02-21-2008, 06:27 PM
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I just purchased a 2003 3124KS and the battery is under a kitchen cabinet next to where the standard chair sits in the living room. It is vented to the drivers side of the trailer, so I am assuming that it is a standard location for that year and model. I purchased a Wallmart group 27 trolling motor battery which is the biggest that will fit. I do have the 6300 charger.
Question 1 Any suggestions better than going through the bargeman connecter.
Question 2 Anyone have an idea how long the battery could stay with the parasitic loads from the safety monitors, not be charged, and not damage the battery? I would take the battery out over the winter.
Question 3 If the bargeman is the best answer, what do you use to connect it to the charger?
Question 4 Using the bargeman, wouldn't that still go through the 6300 to the battery. Would I be gaining anything if I got a smart charger to connect through a bargeman.
I hope the above questions make sense.
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