TrailManor Owner's Forum  

Go Back   TrailManor Owner's Forum > TrailManor Technical Discussions > Electrical
Register FAQ Members List Calendar

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 02-20-2024, 11:36 AM   #1
Rob Culver
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2023
Posts: 74
Default Disconnecting Carbon Monoxide Monitor

Hello all,
I put in a trailer battery disconnect switch and I noticed that when the battery was disconnected it caused my CO monitor to beep intermittently. When I unscrewed the unit from the wall it appeared that the monitor was not battery powered but powered from the two wires going in to it. See my attached pictures. My question is, when you look at the picture with the two wires, should I be able to pull on those wires and that will detach them. Thus disconnecting the monitor? It looked like that might be possible. But I was afraid to pull for fear that I might break it.
Thanks in advance to anyone who may have already crossed this bridge!
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	20240220_095110.jpg
Views:	37
Size:	3.11 MB
ID:	23026   Click image for larger version

Name:	20240220_095144.jpg
Views:	39
Size:	2.91 MB
ID:	23027  
Rob Culver is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 02-20-2024, 12:04 PM   #2
Shane826
TrailManor Master
 
Shane826's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Rochester, NY
Posts: 1,836
Default

It will still beep. It has an internal capacitor or something to hold a bit of power to make it beep when power is low or cut off. Mine used to even beep when the battery was disconnected but the trailer was plugged into shore power.
__________________
2007/21 TM 3326 (Pride of the Fleet)
2000 2720SL (Rebuild Project)
2002 2619 (Parts TM)
SMARTER THAN GOOGLE!
Shane826 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 02-20-2024, 12:19 PM   #3
Rob Culver
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2023
Posts: 74
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shane826 View Post
It will still beep. It has an internal capacitor or something to hold a bit of power to make it beep when power is low or cut off. Mine used to even beep when the battery was disconnected but the trailer was plugged into shore power.
Thanks Shane,
I supposed it doesn't matter then if I disconnect it but just for reference is it possible to pull those wires apart and disconnect? When disconnected I could then put the monitor in a box or something to muffle the sound. Thanks!
Rob Culver is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 02-20-2024, 01:41 PM   #4
Shane826
TrailManor Master
 
Shane826's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Rochester, NY
Posts: 1,836
Default

No those are crimp connectors... If you pull the wires out you’ll need new connectors. If this is something you’ll do regularly maybe get a two circuit quick connector from the auto parts store and wire it in? Then you could plug/unplug as often as you like.

Just be aware if you ever have an issue and an insurance company sees a quick connect on that detector they will probably question it like there is no tomorrow. It’s a liability that you forget to reconnect/reinstall it.
__________________
2007/21 TM 3326 (Pride of the Fleet)
2000 2720SL (Rebuild Project)
2002 2619 (Parts TM)
SMARTER THAN GOOGLE!
Shane826 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 02-20-2024, 02:29 PM   #5
Bill
Site Team
 
Bill's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: The mountains of Scottsdale, AZ, and the beaches of Maine
Posts: 10,104
Default

Assuming that when you disconnect the battery, you also unplug the Bargman cord from your tow vehicle and the campground power cord from the power post, I don't think you need to do anything.

If you collapse the bathroom walls, which lets the silver push-button switch rise, it should cut off the CO detector immediately. Mine always gives one last squeak as the wall comes down.

If yours is wired differently, then it may squeak for a few seconds using the residual stored power in the caps that Shane mentioned. (These caps are in the converter.) But this power will dissipate in several seconds and the squeaking will stop.

Why don't you add your TM year and model to your signature, like mine below? Since different TM models and years have small differences, it helps us a lot if you tell us what you've got, as we try to answer your question. Thanks.

Bill
__________________
2020 2720QS (aka 2720SL)
2014 Ford F-150 4WD 5.0L
Bill's Tech Stuff album
Bill is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-20-2024, 02:53 PM   #6
Rob Culver
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2023
Posts: 74
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill View Post
Assuming that when you disconnect the battery, you also unplug the Bargman cord from your tow vehicle and the campground power cord from the power post, I don't think you need to do anything.

If you collapse the bathroom walls, which lets the silver push-button switch rise, it should cut off the CO detector immediately. Mine always gives one last squeak as the wall comes down.

If yours is wired differently, then it may squeak for a few seconds using the residual stored power in the caps that Shane mentioned. (These caps are in the converter.) But this power will dissipate in several seconds and the squeaking will stop.

Why don't you add your TM year and model to your signature, like mine below? Since different TM models and years have small differences, it helps us a lot if you tell us what you've got, as we try to answer your question. Thanks.

Bill
Thanks for that info Bill (and Shane),
Didn't realize that lowering the bathroom walls would cut it off also.
And I went ahead and added my TM model and tow vehicle to my signature as you suggested.
__________________
2023 2720QS
2022 Nissan Frontier SV
Rob Culver is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 02-20-2024, 03:21 PM   #7
Bill
Site Team
 
Bill's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: The mountains of Scottsdale, AZ, and the beaches of Maine
Posts: 10,104
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob Culver View Post
Didn't realize that lowering the bathroom walls would cut it off also.
Please confirm it - my 2020 TM works this way.

Quote:
And I went ahead and added my TM model and tow vehicle to my signature as you suggested.
Many thanks - it helps.

Bill
__________________
2020 2720QS (aka 2720SL)
2014 Ford F-150 4WD 5.0L
Bill's Tech Stuff album
Bill is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-20-2024, 03:37 PM   #8
Shane826
TrailManor Master
 
Shane826's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Rochester, NY
Posts: 1,836
Default

The CO/LP monitor and I think radio & antenna now run through that switch. It’s a new addition in the last few years. I don’t thinkk they run the rear roof lights through that switch anymore. Bill can you confirm?

And good call about the capacitors being on the converter, didn’t even think of that.
__________________
2007/21 TM 3326 (Pride of the Fleet)
2000 2720SL (Rebuild Project)
2002 2619 (Parts TM)
SMARTER THAN GOOGLE!
Shane826 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 02-21-2024, 08:47 AM   #9
jagizzi
Site Sponsor
 
Join Date: Sep 2021
Posts: 82
Default

i sure as heck don't want to contradict anyone here but, to me, the connectors in question look to be barrel connectors, which would make it possible to disconnect the wires. I guess since the one I am contradicting is Shane it's ok ;-) And I could be wrong
__________________
Jim and Kelli Gizzi
Ferndale, WA
2005 2720QB
jagizzi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-21-2024, 10:37 AM   #10
Bill
Site Team
 
Bill's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: The mountains of Scottsdale, AZ, and the beaches of Maine
Posts: 10,104
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by shane826
The CO/LP monitor and I think radio & antenna now run through that switch. I don’t think they run the rear roof lights through that switch anymore. Bill can you confirm?
You've got it right, Shane. I have confirmed that the shower wall switch no longer controls any lights. I should note that my 2020 TM was built in the midst of a number of upgrades and changes, so not everything on the wiring diagram agrees with reality yet. But according to the wiring diagram, that switch now controls
o CO/LP monitor
o water heater ignition
o radio antenna (but not the TV antenna panel, which presumably sends power to the amplifier in the Jack AM/FM/TV antenna.) I'm not sure what radio antenna is being referenced here, since my TM does not have the black rod with the red light on the rear edge of the front shell.

In my TM, there is an "All lights off" rocker switch near the fire extinguisher, just inside the entry door. As of my 2020 Owner's Manual, this switch does not appear on the wiring diagram, but in practice it controls all lights - front, rear, and outdoor. Very handy - I like it, although I would prefer that it did not control the outside lights (porch, hitch area, utility hookups, etc).

My TM is in the garage just now, so I can't positively confirm some of this, but it all agrees with my memory.

Bill
__________________
2020 2720QS (aka 2720SL)
2014 Ford F-150 4WD 5.0L
Bill's Tech Stuff album
Bill is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 2 (0 members and 2 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Adding a Carbon Monoxide Detector MikeD How to and Modifications 11 07-02-2019 12:08 AM
Odd carbon monoxide alarm Riwright Appliances 1 11-16-2014 02:02 PM
Check your carbon monoxide detector and fridge compartment! ShrimpBurrito Appliances 1 07-21-2011 04:54 PM
carbon monoxide detector won't stop beeping? pat 2720sl Electrical 2 06-23-2009 11:39 PM
Carbon Monoxide Problem PaulinCO General TrailManor Topics 5 07-27-2006 07:47 AM


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 08:12 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Copyright 2022 Trailmanor Owners Page.