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Old 02-02-2019, 09:54 AM   #1
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We r real newbies to TM, but trying to do research. We are former pup owner, then Outback Kargoroo 5200 lbs which was loved, but expensive to tow, bought a tent, but looking for a smaller camper I can tow w 2017 6 cyl Highlander with 5000 lb towing capacity for local towing to Pickwick TN, and one we can tow with Hubby 2006 Tacoma (tc 7500 lbs) to mountains of Arkansas and TN. Found a 2011 2619 TM. Any thoughts or recommendations? We are near 60s so will we be able to hang with mechanics of this folding camper?

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Old 02-02-2019, 10:27 AM   #2
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Over the years, towing capacity has gotten a lot of attention in this forum. I think the general consensus is that a vehicle with a 5000-pound tow rating will be fine for a 2619, especially since you plan to stay in the mountains in the east, rather than the Rockies and Sierras out west. The Tacoma at 7500 pounds, of course, is more than adequate anywhere you go. I'm assuming there are only two of you and your stuff?

And I'm assuming that the 5000-pound tow capacity you refer to is the capacity of your specific vehicle - meaning that if a factory tow package is required in order to achieve that capacity, your vehicle has that package.

As for your physical capacity to open and close the camper, no one can ensure that it is a good match, though the odds are in your favor. The best way to answer the question is to try it. The owner should be glad to let you do that. If it is hard to open or close, there are various adjustments that can help, and this forum is the place to go for specific information on how to do it.

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Old 02-02-2019, 10:53 AM   #3
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I am embarrassed to say that is only the tow rating of the 17 highlander. It did not come with a hitch like our Tacoma. I have not had the towing hitch installed as yet. We do want to take our 2 adolescent grandchildren, but hubby may always ccome...hence my decision with the Highlander and smaller camper. So I should make sure I have a reputable company to install out towing hitch? I appreciate your feedback as my research can only take me so far.
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Old 02-02-2019, 05:16 PM   #4
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TC -

No embarrassment needed. A 2017 Highlander has a tow rating ranging from 1500 lbs to 5000 pounds, depending on trim level and options. Hence my query about the tow package.

For hitch installation, you could go to an RV place, or a Toyota place, but I think you will pay a lot less for the same hitch at U-Haul, which seems to do a good job. You will want a weight-distributing hitch, of course.

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Old 02-02-2019, 06:25 PM   #5
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Let me ask about that Kargoroo... Which model did you have? I’m eyeballing a used one, may go look at it next week. I love my 3326 but I’m really keen on the idea of being able to bring my motorcycle along.
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Old 02-03-2019, 05:35 PM   #6
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You need to check if your highlander has a tow package. If you have the tow package there is no issue with the highlanger. The tow package does not include a hitch. But includes additional transmission cooler, engine oil cooler, higher rpm engine fans, larger radiator and larger alternator. I know in 2016 the highlander did not have the tow package as a option it came on certain models like the LE Plus, XLE and Limited. Check what 2017 models have tow package.

It looks like all models in 2017 have the tow package My search has?? "All 2017 Highlander V6 models come standard with a towing package that allows for a maximum towing capacity of up to 5,000 pounds. The package includes a heavy-duty radiator with engine oil cooler, 200-watt fan coupling, supplemental transmission oil cooler and 150-amp alternator."

We has a 2012 highlander. Very happy with it. Hills and mountains a little slowdown. Soft rear end. we use a 600 lb WDH to compensate. Could get by without it. We are towing a 3023 more heavy and more tongue weight then a 2619.
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Old 02-05-2019, 09:49 AM   #7
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My 2017 Highlander is XLE and is supposed to come with HD battery and transmission cooling, but I need to call Toyota just to confirm. Hitch and wiring harness estimates: Toyota dealer $800...ha ha and U-haul around $400.

It's a 2010 2619 model we going to look at this week. It's from an individual who says everything works great, additional texted pictures look clean/good, has all the options, minor hail damage on top is of little concern unless it leaks. Unfortunately, there is like a 80-100% chance of rain and thunderstorms on the day we are going...what does a "clear rebuilt title" mean? I am concerned it may be a salvage as price seems to good to be true as nearer the low retail.

Shane, hope I answered all your 23 ft Outback Kargoroo questions in the PM.
Everyone has been so helpful in this forum and I appreciate your expertise.

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I think you are good. It looks like 2017 all models came with the tow package.

On my 2012 highlander. I ended up buying and installing a factory hitch. It had the most ground to hitch clearance by about 3" and it has a lot more bolts to the frame then any aftermarket. I ended up finding one on amazon for about $150 less than I could buy local. But it was still about 2.5X the aftermarket hitch price. Also, I bought the light wire adaptor (aftermarket)on amazon for about 2/3rd the the price the dealer wanted.

There were several youtube's on installing the wires for the 2012.
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I can’t wrap my head around having a tow package that doesn’t come with a hitch and harness. Makes no sense to me.
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That was my thought as well. It isn't really a "tow package" without them. On the other hand, those two items (hitch and wire harness) can readily be added as aftermarket items, while the others, not so much.

On other vehicles that are purchased without tow package, folks here on the forum often talk about adding the others as aftermarket, but they are really not the same as factory-installed. I guess it is just a Toyota advertising gimmick that seems to let them build a car for a little less money, while making a bigger claim than is truly deserved.

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