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04-03-2009, 11:57 PM
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Separate black and gray drain pipes?
Notable changes on my TM, according to the dealer, is a factory installed radio/CD player, as well as separate outlets for dumping gray and black water.
Marc
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04-04-2009, 12:13 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ThePair
as well as separate outlets for dumping gray and black water.
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Why would you want to do that? Ordinarily, the gray water rinses the black water out of the hose.
Dave
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04-04-2009, 01:01 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ShrimpBurrito
Why would you want to do that? Ordinarily, the gray water rinses the black water out of the hose.
Dave
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I have no idea, at all. This is just how the TM came from the factory -- I didn't request it. The dealer had never seen anything like it.
If anyone has an idea, please let me know!
Marc
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04-10-2009, 07:34 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ThePair
I have no idea, at all. This is just how the TM came from the factory -- I didn't request it. The dealer had never seen anything like it.
If anyone has an idea, please let me know!
Marc
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I spoke to TM directly, and was told that there are new guidelines and/or regulations for waste disposal. Appparently there are sites now that will want separation of the gray and blackwater, and accept them in different ports/drains or whatever. So, they are now separating the discharge ports for that reason, so the dump sites that require this can be certain and assured that only the one type of waste is being flushed into the proper receptacle.
Or something like that!
Marc
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06-11-2009, 08:50 PM
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I wonder if we need to separate the existing ones?
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06-12-2009, 06:51 AM
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Doubtful. I'd imagine you're grandfathered in, like most regulations.
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06-12-2009, 08:36 AM
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My Elkmont came with separate drain outlets.
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06-12-2009, 09:24 AM
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The things our government attempts to regulate never ceases to amaze me. This one makes no sense at all. So we now have separate drains on our RVs. Does that mean that RV parks now will have to install separate drain systems at each site, which would infer separate septic systems in many areas. Or separate drains leading ultimately to separate waste processing stations. This sounds like a conspiracy by the drain hose industry to me!!! We really do need part time legislatures!
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06-12-2009, 09:29 AM
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I agree. And while I could perhaps see the sense of this if black and gray water were treated differently, I don't see how that's possible. I mean, really, is the black water going to get pumped out and treated and the gray water is going to be released into a field? Highly doubtful. People dump chemicals in their gray water tank too, along with soaps, shampoos, grease, etc. And while gray water may take less processing at a treatment plant, I can't imagine that it's cost effective to have 2 different treatment channels.
Maybe Scott is right -- what's next, mandatory separate hoses for each drain to prevent contamination? (i.e. 2x the hose sales!!!)
Dave
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06-12-2009, 09:57 AM
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I thought about this & came to the same conclusion are all the camp grounds now going to have separate drains? Im so confused why this was needed in the first place.
So far every camp ground I have visited only has one connection so it looks like someone will be making money on hose or y adapters for those newer TM's.
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