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Old 06-09-2009, 11:50 AM   #1
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So I've owned my TM for about 3 years now, but I have only had the battery for 1 (didn't realize I needed it for brakes -- shows you where I'm at here). Though we normally camp fully connected, I can run off battery, and my braking mechanism works from it (glad to have it). The problem is that the battery charge keeps getting lower and I don't have a way to charge it.

My question is, can't my Odyssey Van recharge the TM battery using it's alternator? I'm told I don't have the connection to make this happen, and it would be about $150 to install it. I can buy a battery charger for $70.

My question is what is my best option? Charger or charge from my van?
Is there an option to have a device to "top-off" my battery while I am parked and connected?

BTW - Please point me to a discussion of this if it has already happened.

Can you say ?

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Old 06-09-2009, 12:52 PM   #2
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Don't know if this helps, but I use a tiny "smart" trickle charger and leave the charger plugged in all winter. I bought mine at the local Harley dealer although is is a Deltran unit available at most independent battery dealers. I leave the supplied harness on the battery at all times and as it hangs outside the battery box of my 2919, it is easily connected without opening either the TM or battery box. I'm pretty sure I paid less than $50 for it and it would undoubtedly be cheaper without the Harley logo. They make two models, the little one I have where the charger is in the plug, and a slightly larger one that looks like a mini battery charger. I've had mine for years but if I ever had to replace it, I'd probably lean toward the larger model which I assume has the "oomph" to charge a depleted battery a little quicker. - camp2canoe
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Old 06-09-2009, 02:17 PM   #3
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Thank you for that. I did find one of these and used it over the winter. That helps to maintain a charge, but I don't think it can be used to just charge. For that it works great.

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Old 06-09-2009, 01:43 PM   #4
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There are two reasons to charge from the car:
1. It allows you to use 12 volt refrigerator cycle to keep your food cold on the road.
2. It allows you to charge as you go from one campground to the next if they don't have 110 volt at your campsites. This gives more flexability in choosing where to camp becuase you will alsways have a fully charged battery upon arrival.

I don't know why it would cost 150 but check with some other RV place before you use them.
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Old 06-09-2009, 02:21 PM   #5
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Thanks RogerR!

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There are two reasons to charge from the car:
1. It allows you to use 12 volt refrigerator cycle to keep your food cold on the road.
With my connector for lights et al, shouldn't one of the wires be to run the refrigerator while driving? BTW - That was my original thought as to why the batter would stay charged.

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2. It allows you to charge as you go from one campground to the next if they don't have 110 volt at your campsites. This gives more flexability in choosing where to camp becuase you will alsways have a fully charged battery upon arrival.
Charging while driving is what I had hoped to accomplish.

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I don't know why it would cost 150 but check with some other RV place before you use them.
I figured that was high as well. I'll ask around.

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Old 06-09-2009, 02:23 PM   #6
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Your battery should be constantly charging while you are plugged in at the campground or at home.

If you normally camp with hook-ups, you should have no reason for a battery charger (other than what is built in to your TM).

If you are loosing capacity on your battery, it may be low on water. It is important to remove the caps from the top of the battery and check all 6 cells. If a cell is low on water, fill it (not to the top) with "Distilled" water (available at most grocery stores).

For charging on the road, all you need to do is put a 30A in-line fuse at your TV battery. Run a 8g or 10g black wire from the battery, under the TV (be sure to wire tie it every couple of feet and keep it away from the exhaust system and any moving parts) to the trailer wiring harness.

Here is a link to show you the proper place to connect the wire, depending on what plug you have:
http://www.accessconnect.com/trailer_wiring_diagram.htm

If I were running a shop, I would charge about $150 to do that job. The price sounds fair.
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Old 06-09-2009, 02:54 PM   #7
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Your battery should be constantly charging while you are plugged in at the campground or at home.

If you normally camp with hook-ups, you should have no reason for a battery charger (other than what is built in to your TM).
Well that is what I was thinking.

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If you are loosing capacity on your battery, it may be low on water. It is important to remove the caps from the top of the battery and check all 6 cells. If a cell is low on water, fill it (not to the top) with "Distilled" water (available at most grocery stores).
Good. It's a pretty new battery, but I'll check that.

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For charging on the road, all you need to do is put a 30A in-line fuse at your TV battery. Run a 8g or 10g black wire from the battery, under the TV (be sure to wire tie it every couple of feet and keep it away from the exhaust system and any moving parts) to the trailer wiring harness.

Here is a link to show you the proper place to connect the wire, depending on what plug you have:
http://www.accessconnect.com/trailer_wiring_diagram.htm
Thanks for that. This is what I need (and thought I had).

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If I were running a shop, I would charge about $150 to do that job. The price sounds fair.
Thanks. Good to know the price wasn't too out of whack.

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Old 06-12-2009, 08:16 AM   #8
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Your battery should be constantly charging while you are plugged in at the campground or at home.

If you normally camp with hook-ups, you should have no reason for a battery charger (other than what is built in to your TM).
I am reading through this thread again and caught this. Are you saying that the TM has a device that will charge the TM battery?

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Old 06-12-2009, 05:11 PM   #9
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I am reading through this thread again and caught this. Are you saying that the TM has a device that will charge the TM battery?

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Yes......your TM has a "Converter" that converts 110V house current into 12V to run your camper lights, water pump and toilet pump. That converter also supplies power to your battery for charging, if the battery is hooked up properly.

Every time that your 30A cord is plugged in at home, the campground or into a generator your converter should be charging the battery as well as supplying power to your 12V devices.
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Old 06-09-2009, 03:08 PM   #10
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Though we normally camp fully connected, I can run off battery, and my braking mechanism works from it (glad to have it).
zemmels, I believe only the emergency braking system works off of your TM battery. The regular braking (via your brake controller) works from the your tow vehicle electrical system.
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