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Old 03-19-2011, 07:28 PM   #1
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Default Ceiling Vent Fan Leak Caused By Cracked Vinyl Base

The 2004 2720SL TM I bought last December developed a leak around the ceiling vent fan. It was too cold to be working removing old caulk so I covered the TM with a tarp to prevent further leaking and resolved to check it out come warmer weather.

That day came today. My plan was to completely remove the unit and re-bed it for a long term fix. The hardest part of the job was removing the old caulk gooped on the screws. After pulling the unit I observed that the vinyl base was cracked clean through in 5 places radiating out from the screw holes. Almost all the other screw holes had cracks as well but not completely across like the other 5. See the attached picture. It's obvious that the factory had not pre-drilled the vinyl screw holes and the screws cracked the vinyl.

I bought some 3/4 inch vinyl stock 4 inches wide (the narrowest they had) at Lowes. I cut off 2 pieces 16 inches long as the original, and ripped them 1 1/4 inches wide.

I attached the vinyl to the roof using 3M Marine Adhesive Sealant. Then I mounted the unit to mark the hole locations for pre-drilling. I pre-drilled the holes then laid down RV trailer putty tape recommended to me by a local RV repair business. After installing the unit and replacing the screws, I did an extensive water test and observed no leaks
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Old 03-19-2011, 07:59 PM   #2
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The 2004 2720SL TM I bought last December developed a leak around the ceiling vent fan. It was too cold to be working removing old caulk so I covered the TM with a tarp to prevent further leaking and resolved to check it out come warmer weather.

That day came today. My plan was to completely remove the unit and re-bed it for a long term fix. The hardest part of the job was removing the old caulk gooped on the screws. After pulling the unit I observed that the vinyl base was cracked clean through in 5 places radiating out from the screw holes. Almost all the other screw holes had cracks as well but not completely across like the other 5. See the attached picture. It's obvious that the factory had not pre-drilled the vinyl screw holes and the screws cracked the vinyl.

I bought some 3/4 inch vinyl stock 4 inches wide (the narrowest they had) at Lowes. I cut off 2 pieces 16 inches long as the original, and ripped them 1 1/4 inches wide.

I attached the vinyl to the roof using 3M Marine Adhesive Sealant. Then I mounted the unit to mark the hole locations for pre-drilling. I pre-drilled the holes then laid down RV trailer putty tape recommended to me by a local RV repair business. After installing the unit and replacing the screws, I did an extensive water test and observed no leaks
It looks like someone got carried away torquing those screws. Sounds like you won't have to mess with that again for a long time.
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Old 03-25-2011, 06:39 PM   #3
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Default ceiling vent leak

Well to say timing is everything is an understatement. I was just logging into this forum to see what people have used to re-seal the very same vent. Our TM's been open for the past 2 weeks to stock it as an "earthquake ready" unit. Leaving in Southern Calif. and watching the current events has snapped us back to reality. While it’s been up we've had substantial rains in So Cal and I found that I've got quite a leak going on. I'm guessing that I should go the route that Steppy did and remove the entire unit and then re-seal, or can one get away with simply removing the old caulking and reseal from the top side? Also would everyone agree that the 3M Marine Adhesive Sealant is the right product to use?

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Old 03-26-2011, 04:34 AM   #4
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Well to say timing is everything is an understatement. I was just logging into this forum to see what people have used to re-seal the very same vent. Our TM's been open for the past 2 weeks to stock it as an "earthquake ready" unit. Leaving in Southern Calif. and watching the current events has snapped us back to reality. While it’s been up we've had substantial rains in So Cal and I found that I've got quite a leak going on. I'm guessing that I should go the route that Steppy did and remove the entire unit and then re-seal, or can one get away with simply removing the old caulking and reseal from the top side? Also would everyone agree that the 3M Marine Adhesive Sealant is the right product to use?

Your advise will be welcome,
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Our experience with other trailers and motorhomes is a complete removal, cleaning and reseal is the only option that works. We have never used the 3m marine sealent so have no experience there.
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Old 03-26-2011, 05:59 AM   #5
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The 3M product is excellent, and well suited for the job. I would recommend it.
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Old 03-26-2011, 08:34 AM   #6
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Try using a hair dryer to warm up the area that is caulked, it can make the removal a little easier.
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Old 03-27-2011, 11:09 AM   #7
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Default Clarification On The 3M Product I Used

I used 3M 5200 Marine Adhesive Sealant. This stuff is used for permanent jobs and cannot be easily removed. I chose to use 3M 5200 harking back to my sailor days when I used it to bed down all deck and through hull fittings on my sailboat to fix leaks. After using it, I never had any leaks, even around through hull fittings under water.

I found that the factory sealed both the vinyl base and the vent unit to the vinyl base with some sort of clear rubberized sealer that wasn't applied very liberally. That coupled with cracking the vinyl base by not pre-drilling prior to screwing the unit down guaranteed there would be leaks.

Bruce, I'd strongly recommend pulling the entire unit to inspect the vinyl base for cracks. If yours is in as bad a shape as mine was, you'll want to replace the base as well and bed it down correctly and be done with it.

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Old 10-19-2014, 07:49 PM   #8
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Default Roof Leak

In our new to us 2002 3023 we have a roof leak. So today we removed the vents and are removing all the old caulking. The wood between the two sheets of aluminium is rotten to the point of disintegration. The top boards attached to the vent hoods seam to be ok. There is also a dip in the aluminium between the 2nd vent and the Ac unit, is that suppose to be there? If any of you have any suggestions to help us fix our leak issue please respond.
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