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isotherm · 09-01-2019, 04:15 PM

As part of the search for a new (to me) Trailmanor, I have been reviewing (via archive.org) the specs that were posted each year on trailmanor.com. I have become extremely confused about the changes in the specs through the years.

Dry weights seem to increase through the years, without any obvious standard features being added. Also, as has been noted elsewhere on the forums, dry weight is much lower than sticker UVW... much more than the A/C and awning weights. The difference between UVW and dry weight seems to increase through the years, even though most features remain standard.

Here are some examples from my search:

2015 TM 2417 (not Sport): 2150 (dry) vs. 2545 (UVW) = 395# more
2006 TM 2619: 2673 (dry) vs. 2997 (UVW) = 324# more
2002 TM 2720: 2555 (dry) vs. 2830 (UVW) = 275# more

Some selected changes between 2013 and 2015:

Code:

+-----------------+-------------------+-------------------+-------------+-------------+
|                 | 2417 Sport (2013) | 2417 Sport (2015) | 2417 (2013) | 2417 (2015) |
+-----------------+-------------------+-------------------+-------------+-------------+
| Dry weight      | 2150              | 2050              | 2280        | 2150        |
+-----------------+-------------------+-------------------+-------------+-------------+
| Width           | 7'1"              | 7'5"              | 7'7"        | 7'11"       |
+-----------------+-------------------+-------------------+-------------+-------------+
| Height (closed) | 5'7"              | 6'8"              | 5'7"        | 6'8"        |
+-----------------+-------------------+-------------------+-------------+-------------+

As far as the dry weight vs. UVW, I have gotten in the habit of just adding 300-400# to the dry weight in the spec. It is odd that the 2417's got lighter in a later model year.

What I'm really confused about is the change in width and height. It looks like the width increased 4" between 2013 and 2015 (across the board, not just 2417 models). Likewise, the height increased more than a foot between 2013 and 2015 (again, across the board).

Is anyone aware of what the changes are that yield all these changes? Or is it that older measurements are somehow less accurate? 7'11" + 2" for the awning would be too wide for my garage door... And 6'8" high starts adding the wind drag I was hoping to avoid. The shortest e.g. Casitas are only a foot taller than that.

If anyone actually has a 2015 (except Sport), I would be interested to know how wide and tall (closed) it actually is.

09-01-2019, 04:15 PM	#1
isotherm Member Join Date: Aug 2019 Posts: 6	Confused about specs through the years As part of the search for a new (to me) Trailmanor, I have been reviewing (via archive.org) the specs that were posted each year on trailmanor.com. I have become extremely confused about the changes in the specs through the years. Dry weights seem to increase through the years, without any obvious standard features being added. Also, as has been noted elsewhere on the forums, dry weight is much lower than sticker UVW... much more than the A/C and awning weights. The difference between UVW and dry weight seems to increase through the years, even though most features remain standard. Here are some examples from my search: 2015 TM 2417 (not Sport): 2150 (dry) vs. 2545 (UVW) = 395# more 2006 TM 2619: 2673 (dry) vs. 2997 (UVW) = 324# more 2002 TM 2720: 2555 (dry) vs. 2830 (UVW) = 275# more Some selected changes between 2013 and 2015: Code: +-----------------+-------------------+-------------------+-------------+-------------+ \| \| 2417 Sport (2013) \| 2417 Sport (2015) \| 2417 (2013) \| 2417 (2015) \| +-----------------+-------------------+-------------------+-------------+-------------+ \| Dry weight \| 2150 \| 2050 \| 2280 \| 2150 \| +-----------------+-------------------+-------------------+-------------+-------------+ \| Width \| 7'1" \| 7'5" \| 7'7" \| 7'11" \| +-----------------+-------------------+-------------------+-------------+-------------+ \| Height (closed) \| 5'7" \| 6'8" \| 5'7" \| 6'8" \| +-----------------+-------------------+-------------------+-------------+-------------+ As far as the dry weight vs. UVW, I have gotten in the habit of just adding 300-400# to the dry weight in the spec. It is odd that the 2417's got lighter in a later model year. What I'm really confused about is the change in width and height. It looks like the width increased 4" between 2013 and 2015 (across the board, not just 2417 models). Likewise, the height increased more than a foot between 2013 and 2015 (again, across the board). Is anyone aware of what the changes are that yield all these changes? Or is it that older measurements are somehow less accurate? 7'11" + 2" for the awning would be too wide for my garage door... And 6'8" high starts adding the wind drag I was hoping to avoid. The shortest e.g. Casitas are only a foot taller than that. If anyone actually has a 2015 (except Sport), I would be interested to know how wide and tall (closed) it actually is.