TrailManor Owner's Forum - View Single Post - TrailManor Specifications Water/black water/gray water?

10-06-2005, 08:50 PM

Having just bought a new 3124KB, I can sympathize with your frustration over the lack of info in factory publications and knowledge (sometimes) from dealers. The good news is that this is a GREAT product; you just have to find the right sources for information.To answer your questions, there is no "black water" tank in the traditional RV sense. The toilet is a recirculating type, meaning the same water (chemically treated) is recycled until you dump it. This type of toilet has been used in corporate jets for decades and it works just fine. It is initially "charged" with three gallons (some use a little less), plus a liquid or powder toilet chemical, and will hold about six gallons of combined charge and waste. It dumps in pretty much the traditional way.

The standard fresh water tank holds 20 gallons, but there is an optional 40 gallon tank which I ordered. I would never have known about it except through this forum; neither the website, brochure nor several dealers knew about it.

The current brochure does give the standard fresh and gray capacities. However, be aware that there are a number of additional features/options that are never mentioned in the literature. IMHO, the factory wastes entirely too much typeface talking about taking "time to relax and forget about cares, or just make the most of a sunny afternoon," etc. They could better use the space to inform potential buyers of what their product will do and ALL the options that are available. You can't make an intelligent buying decision without it, and no one tells you if you don't know to ask.

TM has a great story to tell. They just need some new copywriters who understand what comparison shopping buyers need to know. Their saving grace is the Customer Service manager, Ed (can't remember last name; getting both old and curmudgeonly, I guess), who is very knowledgeable and helpful. You can reach him at their 800 number.

End of sermon.

If you get really interested in TMs, by all means, invest in this forum. We saved a bunch of frustration, money, time and aggravation here and ended up getting the right trailer for us.

Jon and Rita

10-06-2005, 08:50 PM	#3
jellis Guest Posts: n/a	Fresh/Black/Gray Water Tanks Having just bought a new 3124KB, I can sympathize with your frustration over the lack of info in factory publications and knowledge (sometimes) from dealers. The good news is that this is a GREAT product; you just have to find the right sources for information.To answer your questions, there is no "black water" tank in the traditional RV sense. The toilet is a recirculating type, meaning the same water (chemically treated) is recycled until you dump it. This type of toilet has been used in corporate jets for decades and it works just fine. It is initially "charged" with three gallons (some use a little less), plus a liquid or powder toilet chemical, and will hold about six gallons of combined charge and waste. It dumps in pretty much the traditional way. The standard fresh water tank holds 20 gallons, but there is an optional 40 gallon tank which I ordered. I would never have known about it except through this forum; neither the website, brochure nor several dealers knew about it. The current brochure does give the standard fresh and gray capacities. However, be aware that there are a number of additional features/options that are never mentioned in the literature. IMHO, the factory wastes entirely too much typeface talking about taking "time to relax and forget about cares, or just make the most of a sunny afternoon," etc. They could better use the space to inform potential buyers of what their product will do and ALL the options that are available. You can't make an intelligent buying decision without it, and no one tells you if you don't know to ask. TM has a great story to tell. They just need some new copywriters who understand what comparison shopping buyers need to know. Their saving grace is the Customer Service manager, Ed (can't remember last name; getting both old and curmudgeonly, I guess), who is very knowledgeable and helpful. You can reach him at their 800 number. End of sermon. If you get really interested in TMs, by all means, invest in this forum. We saved a bunch of frustration, money, time and aggravation here and ended up getting the right trailer for us. Jon and Rita