Well it was time,
had my parts, and read all the info i could find,8 am out the door to find the leak and fix, did not take long to find the left clip was not even slid in, well went ahead and pulled out , new slide plate seals and back together with all new ,less than 3 hrs, this included trip to store to get new slide plates screws, they had rust on the heads, thanks folks for all the info that made this alot less trouble than i thought it was going to be