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Bigbit
07-31-2010, 09:10 AM
We use our trailer on average once every three weeks to a month. We have found that this is sometimes enough to kill the battery between uses, depending on circumstances. The trailer is kept in a storage lot, so there is no access to 120V to keep the battery charged.

Our previous trailer had the battery on the tongue in a marine-battery-style plastic two-piece case. Rather than having to disconnect the battery manually each time, I installed a battery switch like this: http://www.harborfreight.com/battery-cut-off-switch-92688.html integrated into the case cover, which made disconnecting and reconnecting the battery a breeze.

I want to do the same thing with the Elkmont, but the battery is located underneath the couch, in the middle of the trailer. The plastic case has a vent pipe (I'm assuming to vent hydrogen or other gases out of the trailer in the evnt of a battery malfunction).

Has anyone modified their Elkmont to add an easily-accessible battery switch? I'm getting a bit tired of tearing the couch cushions off every time I shut down or go to use the trailer... :new_cussi

brulaz
07-31-2010, 12:59 PM
What would happen if you pulled one or both of the 40A reverse polarity fuses in the WFCO converter?

I haven't tried this but that should break all the 12V stuff supplied by the WFCO. The only thing not covered would be the powered hitch thingy, which takes off directly from the battery, just after the battery fuse.

Also, most people recommend replacing the original battery fuse with something more reliable. Maybe replacing it with a switch-type circuit breaker mounted in the plywood panel under the seat would give you easy access?

Wavery
08-01-2010, 03:48 PM
What would happen if you pulled one or both of the 40A reverse polarity fuses in the WFCO converter?

I haven't tried this but that should break all the 12V stuff supplied by the WFCO. The only thing not covered would be the powered hitch thingy, which takes off directly from the battery, just after the battery fuse.

Also, most people recommend replacing the original battery fuse with something more reliable. Maybe replacing it with a switch-type circuit breaker mounted in the plywood panel under the seat would give you easy access?

It's best to locate the fuse right at the battery (inside the battery box if possible). The purpose of the fuse is to prevent the raw power feed wire from shorting out anywhere past the battery. If you locate a breaker or fuse inside the trailer, the unprotected wire has to run some distance with no protection. If the wire were to chafe through somewhere, you could have a fire.

Bill
08-01-2010, 07:43 PM
So put a fuse in the battery box, and a switch in a convenient location.

Bill

Wavery
08-01-2010, 09:22 PM
So put a fuse in the battery box, and a switch in a convenient location.

Bill

^^ Ideal solution^^

brulaz
08-02-2010, 05:01 AM
The battery in the Elkmont is located inside under the bench seat. It's maybe 2 feet, unobstructed, from the pos terminal of the battery to the vertical plywood panel under that same bench seat where a switch or breaker could be located.

Bigbit
08-03-2010, 07:14 AM
Thanks for the feedback. I am going to visit the trailer at the storage yard this weekend and see what I can rig up...

Bigbit
10-15-2010, 06:52 PM
Finally got around to this mod today. I bought a battery shut off switch here: http://performanceplusconnection.us/NEW-BATTERY-KILL-SAFETY-SHUT-OFF/M/B0017101BE.htm. - a little pricey, but made to do what I envisioned.

The battery is stored under the leg of the "L" of the couch. I drilled a 3/4" hole where I wanted the switch - just to the left of the 110V outlet and above the heater duct outlet, where the couch juts out. The switch mounted cleanly, looks professional, and works well. I like the fact that it's inside the trailer, but in an easy to access and out of the way place.

Works great! :)

brulaz
10-16-2010, 07:35 AM
Ah, very nice switch and a good place for it. I've bookmarked your link. Hopefully I'll get around to this one of these days.

cochise
10-16-2010, 11:59 AM
If you follow the white wire from the battery case you can see where and how I did mine, I did consider "Bigbit's" solution, but decided it was too easy to inadvertently hit the switch and perhaps even break it off. Besides I only use the switch when the trailer is stored, so lifting the seat is not a big deal.

And I will probably catch some "flak" from certain people here for using the ground wire BUT it really does not matter which one you use. The battery connection is "broken". And in Automotive cases you always disconnect the negative ground wire before anything else.

brulaz
10-16-2010, 03:17 PM
BUT it really does not matter which one you use. The battery connection is "broken".

I've wondered about that too. But as long as the circuit is broken somewhere ... I can't see it making any difference.

cochise
10-16-2010, 05:18 PM
I've wondered about that too. But as long as the circuit is broken somewhere ... I can't see it making any difference.

If somehow something should getting into contact with the positive terminal there could be a short, but with the negative lead disconnected you are safe, unless, of course, something hits both terminals. Disconnecting the ground lead in automotive applications stems from the fact that the whole body/chassis would be at "ground" level so it would be difficult to short anything out.

In my case it made more sense to put the switch where I did as it is out of the way and kinda protected from an accidental disconnect. But I don't think it makes much difference.

Bigbit
01-22-2011, 05:40 PM
Here are some pictures of my battery switch installation.