Loooong distance camping -- Lessons Learned?

[trisht]

We are long time tent campers, brand new TM owners and are starting out on a seven week tour of the western states and National Parks. We've spent the last two months devouring all the wisdom on this site, but I still find myself with one nagging question for all of you super experienced campers out there...

a) what is the one thing you wished you knew, would have brought, etc before taking a long distance trip like this?

b) we're leaving on Father's Day and my husband is (IMHO) the world's best father. what is a nifty camping-themed gift my kids could give him (under about $200 -- I'd love to buy the solar panels but...) I'm thinking about a cordless drill since we'll be moving every 3-4 days but would love feedback from the group.

Thanks to you all, your shared wisdom has moved us far along the learning curve.

Trish

[RogerR]

A good cordless drill is a great idea, If he is handy he can bend a piece of 1/4 to 3/8 bar stock to make a "wrench" to attach to the drill and operate the trailer feet.

My favorite item for travel/camping with the kids is a set of dominoes. Great way to spend a few minutes in the evening after the mosquitoes come out for the whole family.

[Bill]

Like Roger, I think a cordless drill is a great idea. My suggestion is to get an 18-volt (or more) drill, since in my experience smaller ones tend to bog down. You will also want a charger to go with it, since a dead battery on a cordless drill makes it pretty useless. As for the wrench? My suggestion is to get a 1/4 inch or 5/16 inch Allen wrench for a buck at the hardware store. Chuck the long end in the drill and hook the short end through the hole in the jack to turn it. Yes, an Allen wrench has sharp edges that tend to wear at the hole in the jack, but the hole serves no other purpose, and it doesn't matter if its size or shape is perfectly preserved.

Bill

[Wavery]

I use the cordless drill on the awning. I've done it for 2 years now without issue.
I can sure roll the awning up in a hurry when the wind picks up. It makes the job so easy, I will often roll up the awning at night and put it back out again in the morning.......... I hate waking up at 2:AM and rolling up the awning in my underwear.....:cool:

[P and B]

"Set Cubed", "UpWords" big edition and "Scrabble"....If you're not big on words get the "Set Cubed" game.

I don't use a cordless drill for any real tasks other than drilling and screwing 'cause I need the exercise!

Phil

[RogerR]

I like using the drill to put the jacks up and down faster. The unit I made is about a foot long with a 1 inch 90 degree bend at the end. That way I don't have to get so far down to make the connection. Easier on the knees, especially on wet ground.

[MudDog]

I just recently got a drill and have used it for the jacks, but if I didn't have a tire pressure monitoring system I think I would rank that higher on my list.

I have the TST (Truck Systems Technologies) monitor that will display the pressure and temperature (monitor and two tire sensors is around $160).

While there have been some reports of tread seperations, etc where the tire stayed inflated and the alarm never went off and there are no guarantees that it will give enough warning, being able to see the pressure and temp near real-time from the tow vehicle gives some peace of mind....and you don't have to go around from tire to tire to check the pressure all the time - you can just glance at the monitor (I still use a normal guage from time to time, but it has never varied from what the TPMS reports).

I went in with another member to by another 2 pack of the sensors and we split the pack and each monitor our spare tires as well. Nothing worse then getting a flat and then finding out your spare is not ready to go.

--jim

[PopBeavers]

If you ever camp in national forests where camp fires are only permitted in an enclosed container, I carry a Pit-To-Go. I can also cook on it but never have.

I have a small set of tools that fits into a case. I don't use it often, but when I do I am glad I have it. It fits under the back seat in the truck.

Infrared sensor, to monitor tire and hub temperatures when stopped to take a break. I just got one for Christmas. Have not used it yet.

Outdoor propane stove. I carry a 2 burner. Sometimes it is nice to cook outside. This is only useful if you stay a few days in one spot because otherwise it is just extra work.

I don't mind drinking coffee made in a percolator. Some folk just really want drip. I would hate running the generator just for that. I have the Coleman drip coffee maker that runs on the stove top.

Horseshoes.

Lego blocks for leveling, if you don't already have them. I carry 2 bags of 10.

My wife and I both snore. If anyone else is sleeping in the front bunk then earplugs are nice to have.

Volt meter to keep an eye on the battery. A monitor would be better, but they can be pricey.

Clips to hang over the bathroom wall to hang clothes on. These are cheap. Maybe save that for a Christmas stocking stuffer.

Rug to place on the ground in front of the steps to help keep dirt out.

Carpet for the steps for the same reason.

Small broom. Ours is stored under the mattress when not in use.

My briquette BBQ will fit in the rear storage compartment, so it is always with us, but the propane grilles are always a little too big for that space.

Pop-up collapsible trash cans. We use three. One in the shower when the shower is not in use. It is lined with a net laundry bag. The other two are lined with large plastic trash bags. One for garbage and one for recycles. I hook the handles over the tongue jack so they don't blow away. If there are raccoons around then they are either dumped at bedtime or stored in the back seat of the truck.

Headlamp. Sometimes you need light at night and also need to use both hands. This could be another stocking stuffer.

There is no such thing as too many bungee cords.

An outdoor table. Sometimes there is no picnic table. Sometimes you want a table at a different location. I have three.

Pop-up free standing awning. Sometimes we set it up over the picnic table when there is a light rain at night. We can play cards outside instead of being stuck in the trailer. If there are raccoons around they will frequently gather just at the edge of the light. You can see their eyes in the dark.

I just can't think of anything else.

[MisterP]

Check for sales on the DeWalt tool bag set at the home improvement stores. Mine came with a 18 volt drill, a 18 volt fluorescent work light, two batteries and the charger in a nice bag. Use it all the time at home and in the TM. They also have a set with a saw, but unless you are cutting firewood all the time I can't see a use for one on a TM.

As for that bent metal to use on the jacks? Almost every appliance I have purchased comes with an allen wrench to adjust one thing or another. I have a drawer full of them, and they fit nicely in the drill chuck.

[trisht]

Thank you for the many, many suggestions above! Especially loved the game suggestions because there were so many I haven't heard of...

At the risk of sound like a complete girl...:o I think I'm missing something wrt the cordless drill. I don't see where I'd put an allen wrench in the jacks. I put a 11/16 socket on the end and it fits well. I'm hoping to find some kind of adapter to connect the socket to the cordless drill. I'm thinking that maybe TM changed the design so I'm including a picture..

Thanks again for the many suggestions...
Trish

[kenngeri2720]

Trish,
I think those are 3/4" and they sell them at Camping World with a shaft for the drill

[RogerR]

The short end of the allen wrench or a bent piece of steel rod fits into the center hole and hooks into the little hole on the side of the jack. The other end of the allen wrench or the steel rod is put into the drill like any drill bit.
You can look at the hand crank that came with the trailer to see how it should work.

[PopBeavers]

I was at a show this year and saw the current TMs. They no longer have the hole for an Allen wrench. They now have a bolt end.

Not sure what year they changed, or why.

[P and B]

Mine are different. The hub is round not faceted and is hollow with a hole at 90 degrees where the jack "wrench" fits- ergo the need for the allen wrench.

Phil

[trisht]

Wayne, you're correct. I can put a 3/4 socket on the end of the bolt. Got a killer deal on a 18v cordless drill at Depot. $39. Apparently, I need to get an 1/2 adapter to make the socket fit but they didn't have them in stock.

The HD guy said this probably isn't going to be strong enough and wanted to sell me a $200 Makita. Will try this tomorrow after I find the adapter.

http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1vZ1xgl/R-202199202/h_d2/ProductDisplay?langId=-1&storeId=10051&catalogId=10053

[Redhawk]

On my 18V drill, I use the high speed to put it u p and down most of the way, if you need any grunt, just switch it to low speed...you'll have more torque. Letting it grunt in high speed will kill the battery.

I use it a lot, you did good!

[PopBeavers]

I use a cordless drill from Sears. It is pretty old, so the voltage is lower than any of the newer ones.

I rarely set my jacks tighter than what this drill can do, except when changing a tire, in which case I used the manual crank.

[Al-n-Sue]

Trish - Newer models have a hex shaft like your picture. The older models had a hollow shaft with a hole in the side - that is what everyone is referring to with the allen wrench or bent shaft attachment in a drill.

[OneMoBear]

Hey Trish,

While I completely respect the opinion of all here, the mama in me thinks that when traveling for that long with three awesome kids, raising and lowering the jacks every few days is going to be the smallest of issues. ;) I would suggest either something that you will use all the time like a really great grill or just going with something totally fun such as a really special day or just a bunch of games like the ones suggested earlier. These are the things that make great memories IMHO.

Malinda

[trisht]

Thanks Malinda, your post made me smile. I gathered up the kids and I read them all the posts. I then asked them if they wanted to get Daddy a gift that made camping easier or something fun we could play as a family. My oldest and youngest chose the drill, the middle guy picked horseshoes. Since I got such a great price on the drill, I got both (and the HS were on sale, too!). I'm just hoping Mike doesn't freak about the additional weight. Other good news is we already had two of the games but hadn't packed them so that was an added bonus.

Hubby already bought the grill and small propane tank as a "trailer necessity".... :-)

Thanks again everyone. We leave on Father's Day for seven weeks! How's that for our first real (not shake-down) trip in our new TM? (wish us luck!)

Trish

[scrubjaysnest]

I think it depends on whats on hand. Our 2011 2720SL has the right angle for the jacks the 2011 2720SD sitting next to it the hex nut. I wonder TM is taking lessons from Jeep for parts.