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Old 07-22-2010, 08:53 AM
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Default Weight of a 2004 2720SD?

Can anyone tell me the weight of a 2004 2720SD, or where I can find it? I've been reading up on the forum and see that the panels were switched to aluminum right about then, so my guess is that it would be similar to present-day models?

We have a 2010 Toyota Highlander AWD with tow-prep package, rated 5,000 lbs.
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Old 07-22-2010, 10:16 AM
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Default Weight of 2004 2720SD

I have a TM brochure dated 8/03. It lists the weight as 2865. To that you would have to add the air conditioner, awning, battery, propane, and your personal belongings and supplies.
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Old 07-22-2010, 10:35 AM
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Equipped as Tim describes, and loaded with food, clothes, water, etc., many of us have 2720's that weigh 4,000 lbs (per a scale) when we take the unit camping.

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Old 07-22-2010, 10:45 AM
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The seller got back to me and said "the approx. Dry Weight is 3250 and the tongue weight is 450" That sounds like too much for our Highlander in hill country.

The current model dryweight per TM's website is listed as 2865--are they being conservative? Or has the weight really been improved that much over the years? That may be options, also.

We are also considering the Chalet XL1938

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Old 07-22-2010, 11:26 AM
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The weight of TrailManors has changed very little over the years.

The most important variables are where you're going and what you're taking along. There are people who get to 5000 pounds, and those of us who stay under 3500. On the East coast, it's no problem traveling with empty water and waste tanks because there's water at the campground and a place to dump the gray water when you leave. In the wide open spaces where you might be hauling all your supplies and water for several days, the load can be a whole lot bigger (20 gallons of water is about 160 pounds, 40 is 320). Carrying an extra battery adds 80 pounds.

If you live and camp at high altitudes, you might need more tow vehicle than if you're just visiting. If you go off road, an off road tow vehicle is more important than for those of us who don't go there. You'll see lots of different ways people use their TMs as well as ways to get them there.
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Old 07-22-2010, 11:38 AM
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Post # 2 & 3 are quite accurate. The TM 2720 dry weight has not changed much since the 90's to present and it really means little. The 3250# number that the seller quoted you probably include the accessories (AC, awning, battery, extra propne tank, caninets etc.)

Dry weights are a comparison that all manufacturers use to keep competitive in the market place but in reality they mean very little to the actual towing weight of a fully equipped trailer that is loaded for camping. That holds true for any trailer that you may be considereing.

You would be far better off to compare GVWR of the different models than making the mistake of comparing dry weight. In reality, ~most camping trailers end up at or close to their maximum weight rating on any given camp-out or towing scenario.

It could be dangerous (for you, your family and others on the road) to figure the ability of your tow vehicle based on dry weights.

The dry weight on our '98 TM is 2750#........actual weight on the scale......3980#+ and there is only my wife and I. My brother has a TT that has a dry weight of 5720#. I finally convinced him to get it weighed. It weighed 7440#......needles to say......he was shocked.

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Old 07-22-2010, 11:43 AM
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As far as gear, we pack very light for traveling. We often get by with one carry-on for the both of us when flying, and tent camping gear fits in our 96 Toyota Corolla wagon. The biggest thing for us is food since I may not be able to find something I can eat at a small town store (food allergies). It's just the two of us and maybe a small dog.

We would not be camping out in the wilds, I can't do real ambitious hikes anymore. We tend to camp in state parks and national parks a lot, where they often have water and dump sites available, and then do day trips to other places from a base camp. But I'm sure there would be some occasions where we would need to travel with water or full gray tanks.

We live at about 1500 feet and tend to go to the coast or up into the Sierras, so yes there will be some high elevations involved. My husband will qualify for a sabbatical in a few years and we'd definitely be using the trailer more widely then.

The seller said it was towed with a 6 cyl. Trailblazer, but when I did a search it looked like the TB's tow capacity was 6100 instead of our 5000?

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The owner's manual for your Highlander probably allows a full 5000# above the gross wt for the tow vehicle (please check it for us), whereas GM and most other manufacturers will tell you to subtract the tow vehicle payload from the tow rating, which will make the trailblazer 6100# turn out to be a little less than the Toyota 5000#.
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Old 07-24-2010, 09:17 PM
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The manual says: "The gross vehicle weight is the total weight of the vehicle. When towing a trailer, it is the sum of the vehicle weight (including the occupants, cargo and any optional equipment installed on the vehicle) and the tongue load."

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"Towing capacity is calculated considering the base vehicle with necessary vehicle equipment and occupants. Additional optional equipment, passengers and cargo in the vehicle will reduce the towing capacity, gross trailer weight include (sic) the trailer, cargo and necessary equipment for towing."

Tow capacity for the 3.5L V6 is listed as 5,000 with towing package, and tongue load 500. "If the gross trailer weight is over 2,000 lbs, it is necessary to use a sway control device with sufficient capacity."

To me, that does not mean that it's 5,000 over the gross wt of the vehicle--it seems like you have to deduct the weight of the load in the vehicle, just like any other TV.

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Old 07-25-2010, 06:24 AM
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Not to beat this to death, but are we finally going to converge on something here? One camp has repeatedly said

"The owner's manual for your [Toyota] probably allows a full 5000# above the gross wt for the tow vehicle"

But the owners manual doesn't say that, and neither does the Toyota web site. Instead they both say

"Additional optional equipment, passengers and cargo in the vehicle will reduce the towing capacity"

Maybe I'm just thick, but I can't find anything to support the first view. Just like every other vehicle, what I read is that when you load up the tow vehicle with passengers and cargo, towing capacity is reduced. Nowhere does it say that passengers and cargo are part of the GVW.

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