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06-14-2012, 03:09 AM
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I asked about using shorter campsites at a Californoa State Park and they told me that if the wheels were on the pavement and the tongue was not in the road that I was OK.
I didn't ask about dropping a stabilizer jack onto the grass. If the butt of the trailer hangs out the back of the campsite you would have to put the rear stabilzers on grass.
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06-14-2012, 06:30 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2011
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When asked by the CG what type unit I have, I always say pop-up. I have been able to park closer to the river or lake due to the layout of the park. Tent camping is generally first row, then pop-up, then upright conventional TT and then motorhomes in the last row. When I arrive, I am the biggest pop-up in the park and close to where most campers want to be.
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06-14-2012, 11:43 AM
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Location: Big Bend area, Florida
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We find if the USFS says trailers 16 feet and under there will almost always be one or more sites the 2720 will fit. They tend to be conservative because of turning the campers around in the CG. Of course sometimes it may require one of PopBeavers 50 point turns . If we have any questions we always park and walk the CG. Pop-up is always the best answer if anyone asks, other wise they jam you in with the bigger rigs.
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06-25-2012, 03:21 PM
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Location: Seattle, WA
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First of all, I have noticed that my 2619 is NOT 26 feet long when opened up. It is 19' from coupler to rear bumper when closed but when opened up the front shell does not extend beyond the coupler so no additional length is generated there. The back shell extends 4' but 1' of that is over the rear bumper so only 3 additional feet are generated there. So, my 2619 is only 22' when opened.
So, when I'm asked how long the camper is by someone at a campground, I tell them 22' but I also explain that the back can hang 4' over the end of the driveway (as long as the barrier isn't so high as to hit the rear bumper) so I can get into an 18' spot.
Frankly, none of this has been an issue more than a couple of times out of many scores of campsites. The only places where it was an issue were so narrow that the truck could not be parked along side the TM but had to remain in front of it.
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06-25-2012, 03:39 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Unstable_Tripod
First of all, I have noticed that my 2619 is NOT 26 feet long when opened up.
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The "26" in the 2619 name refers to a 26-foot conventional travel trailer, which supposedly has space comparable to that of a 2619. It can be shorter, as you noted, because unlike conventional trailers, TM's transform the space above the tongue into living area.
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06-25-2012, 04:09 PM
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Location: Seattle, WA
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I understand that.
But many people don't and might tell a CG that their trailer is 26' long when opened and it is not.
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06-25-2012, 04:24 PM
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lol
kinda been my luck our tm's are so rare , that we can about tell them what the need to hear,
the just stand and look in awe when we open it up.
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06-25-2012, 04:28 PM
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My 3124KS is 24 feet from coupler to bumper when closed. When the camper is open it is 27 feet 8 inches.
If you have a stop at the rear of the camp site and back into it until the wheels hit the stop, you will need about 17 feet to get the tongue out of the road.
Theoretically I could fit in a site that is listed for an 17 foot camper, but I would need to eyeball the site to make sure that the butt of the camper doesn't hit a tree. I would also need to drop two stabilizer jacks on to the dirt.
I normally tell them that my camper is 24 feet.
I do a lot of campground scouting. When I go to a new area I will book a site in some place that is "safe" where I know will the rig will fit. Then I go around and scout the more remote sites. I make a note of access problems and what sites I think I can get in to.
I pull the pickup into the site and put the front wheels against the stop at the back of the pad. The position of the truck's rear bumper is about the same as the position of the tongue if the camper's wheels were againsts the stop. If the space to the back of the stop has clearance for the butt of the camper then I know I can get it in.
Now that I am doing some dry camping I am finding that space is less of a problem.
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06-25-2012, 07:54 PM
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Location: Chicago, IL
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hillbillyhotel
lol
kinda been my luck our tm's are so rare , that we can about tell them what the need to hear,
the just stand and look in awe when we open it up.
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That's been my experience. I list it as 20', but I'll call it 27' if I feel that's needed, or even go to 18' (can always swing the tongue if it's really an issue).
Then again, I haven't really been anywhere that it's been a major issue.
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06-26-2012, 01:11 PM
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Nearly every time I am in a campground I am able to pick a site where I am able to back the TM up until the wheels hit the back stop. This puts about 10 feet behind the rear of the parking pad.
If there is a tree in the way then this does not work.
If the is a slope going down from the back stop then I can only back up until the rear jacks can be used.
On one occasion the rear of the TM when opened was high enough that I could not touch it when standing on the ground under it.
When making a reservation you do not have enough data to figure this out.
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