How much does the 2619 really weigh?

05-12-2010, 11:16 PM

Does it have to be centered? You multiply by 8 with your method, correct Wayne? The example 2 posts above didn't have it centered is why I ask. Thanks....

Wavery · 06-19-2010, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Redhawk

Does it have to be centered? You multiply by 8 with your method, correct Wayne? The example 2 posts above didn't have it centered is why I ask. Thanks....

No,It doesn't have to be centered. The equation above is accurate (if the measurements are perfect). However, whatever distance that you put the tongue from the fulcrum point and the scale must be very accurate to achieve accurate results because any error will be multiplied by the distance. The longer the beam, the less impact of an error. No measurement is perfect. You will find that these measurements will be far from perfect.

It's not a huge deal but in my mind, there's no point in weighing if you don't try to get this most accurate weight possible. I even checked and adjusted the accuracy of the scale with 250# of weights from our gym. Every pound that the scale is off equates to 2# difference in tongue weight.............. 1/2" error in measurement here, another 1/2" there, footprint on scale........There are so many variables in this type of weighing that it would be easy to be off by 50#, if they aren't all as accurate as possible.

When I weigh mine again, I will build a pyramid with different size blocks of wood on the scale to increase the distribution of the footprint on the scale. I think that my weight was pretty accurate but that 2" footprint on the scale bugs me every time that I look at that picture.....

I'm thinking that I have put nearly 70# on my tongue since that picture was taken. (Solar panels in fwd bunk 40# + larger batteries 30#). That stuff really adds up. I have shifted the way that I store things inside the trailer to the back.

TM Pilot · 05-30-2014, 10:13 PM

Here is a link to the tongue and tire weights of my 2007 TM 2619:

http://www.trailmanorowners.com/foru...d=1#post111210

Padgett · 05-31-2014, 07:29 AM

I measured the tongue weight of my 2720 at 470 lbs using two scales, a 400 (got it cheap) and a 250 & summing the readings. It has the slide so the grp 29 battery (60 lbs) is in the rear compartment.

A 5,000 lb capacity Dexter axle is not that expensive (under $400 online outright) & could select the arm angle to raise the rig enough to clear the 15" tires and not need the spacer. Seems like a more elegant solution.

TM Pilot · 05-31-2014, 05:26 PM

While that is a more expensive option, it is definitely a better one, Padgett. The 3500lb axle is just too limiting. If you get the 5000lb axle, you will probably still be limited to your TM's GVWR - the frame can only support so much.

Padgett · 05-31-2014, 06:07 PM

BTW here is a "door page" for mine. Am not so concerned about frame flex normally, the shock if the 3500 axle hits a stop is going to be a lot harder on the frame and a 2x5" beam can take a lot of shear.

What is intersting is the "slipstreamed" changes that TM seems to have made, need to verify but think there is a wheel well change that may have accompanied the 15" wheel, will provide more info after I remove one of mine.

On that line does TM use an automotive model year or calalendar, or "something else" ? If automotive then my April '06 would be considered "late production".

ps I'd put the roof AC with ducts and air handler at closer to 125 lbs than 60

**rickst29** · 05-14-2018, 07:38 PM

My "heavyweight" 2619 weighs 3040 lbs on the Scale, with WDH "pushing back" some hitch weight. That includes solar panels, air conditioner, a partly loaded fridge, real dishes, the microwave, and about 30 lbs of bedding stuff. (Zero water, empty gray and black tanks). 40 gallons of fresh water would add 340 lbs, and my usual "stuff" with clothes, dry foods, and electronic things would add 100-150 lbs more. A really long trip and "heavily packed trip" might add another 150 lbs.

Fully loaded, on the scale with the WDH cinched up, my trailer axle would weigh more than 3500 lbs. The weight of tires, wheels, and axle itself probably doesn't count towards the Dexter limit, but I'd be close. Adding another 450 lbs of people and dog inside, the static weight (in camp) is definitely above 3500 lbs. But Dexter's ratings are probably for roadways with minor potholes, and a bit more "static loading" might be OK.

Forrtunately, modern TMs are built with more capable axles - and my old 2619 was also built with a "5000 lb" axle, so I have lots of room to spare.