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07-10-2018, 03:42 PM
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Location: Hudson valley, NY
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New (old) TV--4-pin to 7-pin question
After years of depending on others for my TV, I bought an 18-year-old Ford Explorer this week. Has a 2" receiver, so towing is no problem. But the car has a flat, 4-pin wiring harness, which I need to adapt to my TM's 7-pin. I bought an adapter, and tried it out. Very weak on the turn signals, and haven't tested other functions yet.
What do I lose in going from 7- to 4-pin? Braking? That wouldn't be cool. Appreciate any advice.
Ken Franklin
Hudson Valley, NY
2720SL
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Ken Franklin
Hudson Valley, NY
TV: 2000 Ford Explorer
TM: 2008 2720SL
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07-10-2018, 05:00 PM
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Site Team
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: The mountains of Scottsdale, AZ, and the beaches of Maine
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Ken -
The 4-pin connector is intended for lightweight utility trailers. It is missing some of the functions that a camping trailer such as a TM requires.
The 4-pin connector carries 3 circuits plus ground. The 7-pin connector carries 6 circuits plus ground. The circuits are these:
. Connector. . . . . . . 7 pin . 4 pin
1. Left turn/stop . . . X . . . . X
2. Right turn/stop. . . X . . . . X
3. Running lights. . . . X . . . . X
4. Trlr brakes. . . . . . X
5. Trlr 12v charge. . . X
6. Trlr backup lghts. . X
7. Ground . . . . . . . . X . . . . X
As you can see, the 7 pin connector carries three circuits that the 4-pin connector doesn't have. These are the trailer brakes, trailer backup lights, and the 12 VDC trailer battery charge line. There is no way for an adapter to create these functions. You must add wiring from the engine compartment area to the rear bumper, and mount a 7-pin connector there.
Note that if you go to an on-line RV parts site such as e-trailer.com, you can find what they call a 4-pin to 7-pin converter. This is a simple device that simply picks up the 4 wires from your tow vehicle's 4-pin connector, and routes them to the proper pins of a 7-pin connector. In other words, they do a mechanical conversion - you can plug the TM 7-pin connector into them. But they do not create the missing functions.
Bill
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07-10-2018, 05:46 PM
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TrailManor Master
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: White Mountains of New Hampshire
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etrailer is probably the best place to start. They have everything you need, and are very helpful. To start you can enter your vehicle make/model/year, and the website will bring up the correct parts for you. For example, when I ordered the break system for my '88 Bronco, this is the wiring kit I ordered:
https://www.etrailer.com/faq-etbc7.aspx
It's easy enough to do yourself - a few hours, the correct tools, and you'll have your new-to-you vehicle wired for your TM.
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Holly
2005 Trailmanor 3023 - 2016 Ford Expedition Limited w/ Eaz-Lift WDH
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07-20-2018, 06:14 AM
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Site Sponsor
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Interlachen, FL
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4 pin to 7 pin
Ken,
Often the wiring harness already exists on the vehicle.
A quick check is to see if you have a plug under the dash (usually near the steering column) in the driver's position to attach a brake controller. If it is there, then there is probably a plug in the rear to attach a 7-pin connector and positions in the fuse panel for fuses and a relay for brakes and trailer battery.
If not, then you need to use the kit such as the one from etrailer.
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Don & Lory
2003 3023 - Passed on to friends
2013 2720 SL
TV - 2011 Ford Expedition w/towing package
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07-22-2018, 06:18 AM
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Site Team
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: The mountains of Scottsdale, AZ, and the beaches of Maine
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HoMiPa
etrailer is probably the best place to start. They have everything you need, and are very helpful. To start you can enter your vehicle make/model/year, and the website will bring up the correct parts for you. For example, when I ordered the break system for my '88 Bronco, this is the wiring kit I ordered:
https://www.etrailer.com/faq-etbc7.aspx
It's easy enough to do yourself - a few hours, the correct tools, and you'll have your new-to-you vehicle wired for your TM.
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You're right, Holly. The kit in your link is not the simple 4-to-7 mechanical converter that I described above, which many owners think will somehow provide the needed trailer functions such as braking. To use the kit you described, and assuming your tow vehicle does not already have the wiring described by DR CARVER, e-trailer makes it clear that you will have to add wiring to your tow vehicle
Conclusion? When you find a 4-to-7-pin converter offered on line, be sure you understand which kind is being offered.
Bill
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07-22-2018, 10:15 AM
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TrailManor Master
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Somerset, OH
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I would just get the 7-pin connector that is ready for a 4 - pin flat connector from the TV to plug-in. Most also have a 4 - pin connector for the trailer on them. Then you only have to wire up the 3 other wires.
But it sounds like you have a poor ground.
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Art & Joyce
Current camper: Motor Home
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08-11-2018, 09:24 PM
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Member
Join Date: Jul 2018
Posts: 15
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Check out etrailer.com
I bought a 7 pin connector for my tow vehicle that uses the 4 pin connector at etrailer.com. Only 3 wires to connect to finish the job. Very simple and I am not a electrician.
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