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Old 12-05-2016, 07:41 PM   #11
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I've never had a pick-em-up truck (seats do not recline far enough) but while my V6 Jeep Grand Cherokee is limited to 500/5000, the '14s and up are rated for 620/6200 lb.

This in a mid-sized Amurricn SUV that can be bought new for under $30k if you do not need all of the gee-gaws.

Nothing is worse than a convert.
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Old 12-06-2016, 12:15 PM   #12
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Did I miss something?? Is not the Jeep an Italian owned company with most of the content imported, but assembled in OH.

That would be like calling Honda assembled in OH and Toyota assembled in KY as American made. I don't think so! But both do have more than 50% US content, much more then Jeep.
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Old 12-06-2016, 06:09 PM   #13
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Sorta but my '12 GC was designed in the Mercedes era and shares the chassis with a GL350. Engine is Chrysler assembled in Mexico, transmission is German and the whole car was imported from Detroit (Jefferson Ave plant).
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Didn't they closed the Jefferson plant.

Mercedes sure raped that company. Took all the billions on the books after the purchase and gave it to the Mercedes shareholders, took all the intellectual assets. Mercedes employees did not like coming to Detroit, so they had buy the Chrysler building and change the HQ to NYC for trips to NYC. Ran the chartered 747 2x daily for Mercedes employes to take trips from Stuttgart to NYC. Like Stuttgart is some prize city? After raping the company they left it bankrupt for someone else to fix.
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Old 12-06-2016, 08:59 PM   #15
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Ho boy people sure believe some odd things. Yes they closed the original Jefferson Ave Plant which once built Maxwells, my GC was built at the Jefferson Avenue North Plant which is churning out GCs and Durangos.

OTOH my Crossfire was built entirely in Germany of good German parts left over from the SL320 even to the M112 SOHC V6 (a design they copied from Buick). Mine is NA with a 6 speed and not the boosted AMG version used in the SRT.

Only car I had to use a cut-off tool and a sawzall to get the seat back far enough.
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Old 12-07-2016, 05:00 AM   #16
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Seems to me the OP was asking about tongue weight.... Not about where cars, SUV, are made and with what parts...


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Old 12-07-2016, 07:40 AM   #17
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Was responding to misinformation in post #14.

As to tongue weight, TM has always biased the tongue weight to about 15% instead of 10-12% of the total trailer weight to help reduce sway. This results in 430-460 lbs for a 2720 and proportionally higher or lower for others.

Since most class II hitches are 350/3500 lbs you really need something designed for and with a class III or class IV receiver. In simpler terms, at least a 2" receiver. Should be either stamped on the receiver or in the owner's manual.

But tongue weight is only one of the elements to comfortable/safe towing. It is best to have a TV with a factory towing package rated for at least 500/5000 lbs. More is better. If the rear drops more than about 3/4" or if the nose rises uncomfortably then a weight distributing hitch is the generally accepter answer. If for some reason a WDH is not advisable then some form of load levelling device is advisable (is part of many factory trailer towing packages).

If a novice and have options, it is best to use one of the TVs that are known to function will with a TM.

I have towed A Lot, run all of the math, and am chea^H^H^H^H thrifty so am biased.
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