TrailManor Owner's Forum  

Go Back   TrailManor Owner's Forum > TrailManor Technical Discussions > Frame
Register FAQ Members List Calendar

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 07-28-2008, 06:30 PM   #1
grakin
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Checking Electric Brakes

Here's a tip I used recently to verify that brakes on both wheels of my 2619 were connected electrically (the brakes seemed fairly weak, so I thought it might be that one brake was working but the other wasn't, due to a loose wire or something):

I used an ohm meter to measure the resistance between the electric brake terminal and the ground terminal on the TM's 7-way trailer plug. According to the Dexter Axle manual, resistance should be 3.2 ohms for each wheel brake, so it should read around 1.6 ohm (.8 ohm if you have 4 wheels) if the wiring is perfectly resistance-free. Of course it isn't, so my reading came out to be 1.7 ohm - but that's still close enough. You can look up the trailer plug wiring diagram online to see where to hook up the leads. If the reading was 3.2 ohms, I'd know one of the wheel brakes wasn't electrically connected anymore.

This might be a good check before a long trip or after a long time in storage (up here, the rats love to chew on wiring). You still need to test your brake stopping power (in my case, the weak brakes were due to the brakes being out of adjustment), but this can let you electrically verify they are connected.
  Reply With Quote
Old 07-28-2008, 09:06 PM   #2
wbmiller3
Site Sponsor
 
wbmiller3's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Southeast of Houston, Texas
Posts: 1,089
Default

Thanks, that's a keeper.
__________________
Bill
https://spaceflight.training
https://www.facebook.com/wbmiller3
2018 F150 towing 2001 2619; lift kit & 15" wheels
wbmiller3 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-29-2008, 04:45 AM   #3
mtnguy
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Sounds like a simple test to make sure both brakes work.....thanks for the heads-up.

Chap
  Reply With Quote
Old 07-29-2008, 08:50 AM   #4
Scott O
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Another tip which I mentioned some time ago...crawl under the TM and make sure the wires to the brakes are connected!!! One of ours was not, and we had no trailer brakes. Since this was the way it was delivered, I didn't know the 'feel' of properly working brakes, so I just thought all was well. Wrong. Good thing the TM is light and our truck was strong. Now when we leave I will roll down the street and just apply the trailer brakes using the brake controller and not the TV. If we stop, they are working!
  Reply With Quote
Old 07-29-2008, 08:59 AM   #5
mtnguy
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

When installing my lift kit, I discovered a wire on 1 side that was wore down to a couple of strands, and the other wheel had the insulation wore down to the copper, also. Must both have been the ground wires, as my fuse didn't blow and the brake controller did not show a default. I routed the wires through some automotive electical wiring harness where it goes thought the axle bracket.

Chap
  Reply With Quote
Old 07-29-2008, 07:50 PM   #6
AstroBruce
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

I use a compass.
  Reply With Quote
Old 07-29-2008, 10:12 PM   #7
ShrimpBurrito
Site Sponsor
 
ShrimpBurrito's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Sunny Beaches of Los Angeles
Posts: 3,239
Default

I'm confused. I presume the brakes are in parallel with each other.....so if each wheel brake has a resistance of 3.2 ohms, shouldn't the reading at the pigtail be the same?

Dave
__________________
2000 2720SL & 2007 3124KB
2005 Toyota Sequoia
Twin Battle Born 12v 100Ah LiFePO4 (BBGC2) batteries, 300W solar on rear shell, Link 10, Lift kit, Maxxis 8008 225 75/R15 E tires
ShrimpBurrito is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 07-29-2008, 10:51 PM   #8
grakin
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Two resistors (3.2 ohms in this case) in parallel will be 1/2 the resistance of either resistor (assuming equal resistance in both resistors).

See http://physics.bu.edu/py106/notes/Circuits.html

The equation is something like:
1/R = 1/(R1) + 1/(R2)

That is, 1/R = 1/3.2 + 1/3.2, which is 1/R = 2/3.2, which becomes R = 3.2/2, or R = 1.6.

That also makes sense because if you pull the emergency breakaway cable, and apply 12 volts to both brakes, your battery will drain twice as fast compared to if only one brake was connected. Since the voltage is 12 volts in this case, whether one or two brakes are connected, Ohm's law (Resistance equals Voltage divided by Amps) says that resistance is 1/2 when the battery drains twice as fast:

R = 12/I (for one brake, where R is resistance and I is amps drawn) for one brake (for 12 volts, "I" ends up being 3.75 amps, or R = 12/3.75). For two brakes, "I" would be double (twice the amps, twice the battery drain), or 7.5 amps at 12 volts. So R = 12/7.5, or 1.6 ohms.
  Reply With Quote
Old 07-30-2008, 04:49 AM   #9
mtnguy
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by AstroBruce View Post
I use a compass.
Does all the wheel and drum metal attract the compass before you apply the brake??

Another unique idea.

Chap
  Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 11:49 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Copyright 2022 Trailmanor Owners Page.